Silver Keris Coteng with old restoration

[Jean]

Thank you Alan. I would like to add 2 observations:
. From the pics the blade does not seem to properly fit into the scabbard (sinking & floating into the slot and with a different angle), so this kris is probably a dealer's montage?
. According to a well-known javanese kris book written by Koesni in 1979, a long sogokan is an indicator of tangguh Pajang but we know how incertain it is...

Gustav, could you please show us a similar wavy blade attributed to the Malay Peninsula?

Regards

[Gustav]

Originally Posted by Jean

Thank you Alan. I would like to add 2 observations:
. From the pics the blade does not seem to properly fit into the scabbard (sinking & floating into the slot and with a different angle), so this kris is probably a dealer's montage?
. According to a well-known javanese kris book written by Koesni in 1979, a long sogokan is an indicator of tangguh Pajang but we know how incertain it is...

Gustav, could you please show us a similar wavy blade attributed to the Malay Peninsula?

Regards

Jean,

please just use search function, the word "Malela", and you will find a lot of wavy peninsular blades with long Sogokan in UBB forum, which all are, of course, much younger then this blade and so different in style. Really old peninsular blades are practically unknown. Three interesting blades also here on the first page, for you particularly the last one:

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ighlight=kedah


That dealer would have lived a long time before. I have seen the pics of it before cleaning.


May I ask - its Pengging or Pajang to you now?

Regards

[Jean]

Hello Gustav,
Thank you for the link to this old thread.
Regarding the origin of this blade and considering its poor condition & missing ganja, I am not asserting anything but just giving my modest opinion in order to initiate the discussion...
Regards

[Gustav]

Hello Jean,

I understand, thank you for clarification.

Regards

[Roland_M]

Some additional pictures of the blade.

I think the curvature in both directions is good to see.

[David]

Originally Posted by Roland_M

Some additional pictures of the blade.

I think the curvature in both directions is good to see.

Thanks for the extra photos Roland. I can see now what you mean about it looking like a pejetan blade. This doesn't seem to me to be the type of blade that would get a pejetan treatment. For instance i have never seen a keris pejetan with a strong ada-ada like this blade has. So perhaps these bends are coincidental or accidental.
As for silver work, it is relatively cheap to do silver work in Indonesia as compared to most places in the western world. I discovered this a few years back when i wanted to silver plate a brass pendok for a new sheath and it was actually far cheaper for me to ship it there and back for the plating than to have a local guy do it here in the states. Commissioning an entire sheath would probably be more expensive than adding a bit of silver work to cover damage on an old sheath if the work was done in Indonesia.

[maxbliss888]

Interesting Coteng....