How does one hold a tulwar?

Pukka Bundook · 12th August 2015, 05:05 AM

Jens,

It is good to be here and to talk to you. Too much to do is not good, and a lot has happened over the last while.

When I mention the finger over the guard may not be in such danger as in Western fencing, this does not mean I would be using such a grip if in a fight!
No, as long as I could get my whole hand inside the guard, that would be how I would hold it. "Josh" was the term was sit not? for the feeling of confidence etc. in a good tight grip!

I am pleased you are well, Jens.

Best of everything.
Richard.

blue lander · 12th August 2015, 05:43 PM

With the kind of long draw cuts you do with a tulwar your forearm and fingers are going to be exposed no matter how you hold it (which is where the dhal comes in)

kronckew · 12th August 2015, 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blue lander

With the kind of long draw cuts you do with a tulwar your forearm and fingers are going to be exposed no matter how you hold it (which is where the dhal comes in)

true, if you have a dhal with you. the use of bucklers like that in europe is frequently ignored by us modern pundits - a late medieval/early renaissance european swordsman would have likely had his buckler for much the same reasons. it is occasionally discussed here on the forum too.

note to self: you do not have a buckler in your collection. buy one.

further note back to self: OK, you find me the money.

sirupate · 12th August 2015, 06:09 PM

In these vids they appear to be using a standard grip
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYf3f1r3iT4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpwBm3iDSEo

kronckew · 12th August 2015, 06:42 PM

did not seem to be much actual bloodshed in the first video. old guy with a bit of a a gash to the skin. if they'd been serious i think there would be more body parts & fluids laying about.

made the mistake of giving a 'ninja' sword to my then 18 yr. old son. he of course drew it and started to flourish it about, hit the ceiling & dropped it on his arm, producing much the same cut. he never did that again.

in the 3 yootube tulwar videos, the last shows use of dhal/bucklers, the 3 attacking the onstructor have bucklers, and appear to be using a std. 4 finger inside the guard grip. the guy who is about to be disarmed seems to have his thumb more exposed tho. (te guy behind him had just been similarly disarmed, the instructor holding the resulting sword upside down.

sirupate · 12th August 2015, 06:48 PM

I've seen his demo's and had a few chats with him, mainly about the way they use the kukri, if I see him again I'll ask about the grip types, but as the picture shows he teaches and uses one of the two standard sabre grips.

blue lander · 12th August 2015, 08:30 PM

Isn't that fellows form of martial art an attempt at "reconstructing" Indian martial arts that were banned under the Raj? I wonder how definitive his interpretation should be considered

12th August 2015, 06:42 PM	#5
kronckew Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Room 101, Glos. UK Posts: 4,249	did not seem to be much actual bloodshed in the first video. old guy with a bit of a a gash to the skin. if they'd been serious i think there would be more body parts & fluids laying about. made the mistake of giving a 'ninja' sword to my then 18 yr. old son. he of course drew it and started to flourish it about, hit the ceiling & dropped it on his arm, producing much the same cut. he never did that again. in the 3 yootube tulwar videos, the last shows use of dhal/bucklers, the 3 attacking the onstructor have bucklers, and appear to be using a std. 4 finger inside the guard grip. the guy who is about to be disarmed seems to have his thumb more exposed tho. (te guy behind him had just been similarly disarmed, the instructor holding the resulting sword upside down. Attached Images Last edited by kronckew; 12th August 2015 at 06:53 PM.

12th August 2015, 05:05 AM	#1
Pukka Bundook Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 803	Jens, It is good to be here and to talk to you. Too much to do is not good, and a lot has happened over the last while. When I mention the finger over the guard may not be in such danger as in Western fencing, this does not mean I would be using such a grip if in a fight! No, as long as I could get my whole hand inside the guard, that would be how I would hold it. "Josh" was the term was sit not? for the feeling of confidence etc. in a good tight grip! I am pleased you are well, Jens. Best of everything. Richard.

12th August 2015, 05:43 PM	#2
blue lander Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 456	With the kind of long draw cuts you do with a tulwar your forearm and fingers are going to be exposed no matter how you hold it (which is where the dhal comes in)

12th August 2015, 06:09 PM	#4
sirupate Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: England Posts: 373	In these vids they appear to be using a standard grip https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYf3f1r3iT4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpwBm3iDSEo

12th August 2015, 06:48 PM	#6
sirupate Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: England Posts: 373	I've seen his demo's and had a few chats with him, mainly about the way they use the kukri, if I see him again I'll ask about the grip types, but as the picture shows he teaches and uses one of the two standard sabre grips.

12th August 2015, 08:30 PM	#7
blue lander Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 456	Isn't that fellows form of martial art an attempt at "reconstructing" Indian martial arts that were banned under the Raj? I wonder how definitive his interpretation should be considered