Hunting Sword, Thoughts?

Henk · 7th August 2015, 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Rick

I'd agree with you Henk, but for the stamp(s) on the tang and the furniture castings ...

Tang stamp rotated:

That was my idea too Rick. The stamps on the tang puzzled me most. Reproducing the furniture castings was a job they could do pretty well over there.

Rick · 7th August 2015, 03:32 PM

A nice sharp picture of the stamps will probably answer the question of origin (of the blade at least) .

fernando · 8th August 2015, 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick

A nice sharp picture of the stamps will probably answer the question of origin (of the blade at least) .

Yes ... vital !!!

Ian · 8th August 2015, 07:56 PM

Even though it resembles in some ways the swords from western Java (Tjikeroeh and environs), I think this one is European with a prominently laminated blade.

The absence of a prominent single fuller with engraved vines and leaves is important, and we do not see the place name (or its abbreviated form) inscribed at forte along with the year of manufacture. The marks on the tang are also atypical and appear to have been stamped, whereas the marks on Tjike blades are all chiseled and scribed.

This style of sword or one like it may have been an inspiration for some of the west Java swords that were made towards the end of the 19th C. through to about the 1920s.

Ian.

ingelred · 10th August 2015, 02:01 PM

Hi there,

one of the words clearly reads "Damast" meaning damascus steel.
According to some sources I have (i.e. Manfred Sachse: Damaszener-Stahl. Mythos. Geschichte. Technik. Anwendung) blades forged in Solingen in the 19th century made of damascus steel were marked like this on the tang, so I assume it was made in Solingen, Germany.

Best regards, Helge

A Senefelder · 10th August 2015, 11:37 PM

I spoke with my buddy who will take pics of the whole blade. He has contacted the person from whom he got it and it was a WWII bring back from Czechoslovakia.

Rick · 11th August 2015, 02:43 AM

I guess the question then arises: is the snake element Eastern or Western influence ?

7th August 2015, 03:32 PM	#2
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,376	A nice sharp picture of the stamps will probably answer the question of origin (of the blade at least) .

8th August 2015, 07:56 PM	#4
Ian Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Aussie Bush Posts: 4,515	Even though it resembles in some ways the swords from western Java (Tjikeroeh and environs), I think this one is European with a prominently laminated blade. The absence of a prominent single fuller with engraved vines and leaves is important, and we do not see the place name (or its abbreviated form) inscribed at forte along with the year of manufacture. The marks on the tang are also atypical and appear to have been stamped, whereas the marks on Tjike blades are all chiseled and scribed. This style of sword or one like it may have been an inspiration for some of the west Java swords that were made towards the end of the 19th C. through to about the 1920s. Ian.

10th August 2015, 02:01 PM	#5
ingelred Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Moenchengladbach, Germany Posts: 62	Hi there, one of the words clearly reads "Damast" meaning damascus steel. According to some sources I have (i.e. Manfred Sachse: Damaszener-Stahl. Mythos. Geschichte. Technik. Anwendung) blades forged in Solingen in the 19th century made of damascus steel were marked like this on the tang, so I assume it was made in Solingen, Germany. Best regards, Helge

10th August 2015, 11:37 PM	#6
A Senefelder Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 214	I spoke with my buddy who will take pics of the whole blade. He has contacted the person from whom he got it and it was a WWII bring back from Czechoslovakia.

11th August 2015, 02:43 AM	#7
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,376	I guess the question then arises: is the snake element Eastern or Western influence ?