Any Amazon collectors?

fireiceviper · 2nd August 2015, 08:55 PM

@ Tim Simmons

Love The club, really has that nice heavy look to it, probably super rare (but we wont know that in lets say 50 years...) does the wood almost feel like plastic because of its density?

@ VANDOO

It is actually the one from a few posts back! but I've made some better pictures...

Edit: the pictures are in the wrong order......

Tim Simmons · 22nd August 2015, 03:35 PM

My latest, Kayabi. It is new-ish made for festival. They can be bigger but very hard to find. The pattern is cotton and cane. The cotton is painted with a resin so it is made hard and red coloured. Even in Indian lands fights most happen just as in our world. Shown with some Melanesian clubs of the same size.

VANDOO · 22nd August 2015, 09:25 PM

A VERY NICE ATTRACTIVE CLUB TIM.

ALSO GREAT TO SEE A PICTURE OF A TRIBESMAN WITH ONE.
FIERCEVIPER THANKS FOR THE PICTURES OF THE SPEAR WITH THE NOTCHES THE SPEAR POINT AND PROTRUSIONS REMINDS ME OF A FORM USED BY THE KAXINAWA TRIBE AKA. HUNI KUIN FROM BRAZIL.

#1 AND #2. A CEREMONIAL CLUB OR STAFF FROM THE AMAZON 34.5 IN. LONG X 1.5 IN DIAMETER. IT HAS SIMILAR NOTCHES BUT I AM NOT SURE WHAT GROUP IT COMES FROM OR OF ITS USE.

#3 thru #6 A SHORT DANCE SPEAR KAXINAWA TRIBE 26.5 IN. LONG

fireiceviper · 27th August 2015, 02:21 AM

@Tim Simmons

Wow like it it! but i like the small melanesian club (new caeldonian?) more! very nice!

@Vandoo

Thanks Vandoo, very similar indeed! i'm gonna research that region more,thank you! I also found another angle I came across some pictures (of a similar style spear with the same type of feather work as mine from the surinam region (its a stock photo site so i can't copy it or post it here).

The small dance spear I've seen before but i have some doubts about it...looks a little bit crude in comparison to the rest, but i could be wrong!

VANDOO · 27th August 2015, 06:46 PM

THE SMALL DANCE SPEAR IS FAIRLY RECENT AND WAS MADE USING MODERN TOOLS POSSIBLY FOR TRIBAL CEREMONIES BUT LIKELY FOR SALE TO TOURISTS. ITS ACTUALLY WELL MADE FOR A SOUVENIR AND DOES HAVE SOME OF THE TRADITIONAL TRIBAL DESIGN I ASSOCIATE WITH THE KAXINAWA TRIBE. THERE IS A PICTURE OF SOME MORE OF THE TRIBES PEOPLE AND WEAPONS EARLIER IN THIS POST. I COULD BE WRONG AS OTHER TRIBES MAY MAKE THIS FORM OF SPEAR BUT SO FAR THE ONLY EXAMPLES I HAVE SEEN WERE FROM THIS TRIBE, SO ITS A GOOD PLACE TO START LOOKING.

fireiceviper · 21st October 2015, 07:38 PM

I know it's not really a weapon, but i thought i'd share

I believe its from the Guyana/Surinam Area.. ( I also found another bow and arrow set, but haven't had time for pictures yet, but trust me its nice with feathers

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Houkura · 1st February 2016, 02:48 PM

Hi Folks. First post here. I found this site researching a club I purchased several months ago and figured now that I am enrolled I would share some photos of the club. From the Smithsonian website I found the club is what they call a "Shipibo Sword Club". It's quite heavy and has very sharp edges. Could cut through about anything. Very nice patina. The unusual aspect is where there is usually a sort of woven "rattan" covering on the handle this club has a native made cotton cover-probably a replacement but still pretty early. There is an old storage label from a "Bekins Moving" (an American moving company) in Albuquerque and the seller said it was in a small museum in New Mexico in the 50's. I collect Polynesian clubs and objects and a little African so this is out of my wheelhouse but it was so cheap and looked quite nice so I pulled the trigger. Any info on this club welcome. I've really enjoyed this thread and others-thanks... Sorry the photos are a little dark! I'll post one first to see if I'm doing it right...

1st February 2016, 02:48 PM	#7
Houkura Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Posts: 5	Shipibo Hi Folks. First post here. I found this site researching a club I purchased several months ago and figured now that I am enrolled I would share some photos of the club. From the Smithsonian website I found the club is what they call a "Shipibo Sword Club". It's quite heavy and has very sharp edges. Could cut through about anything. Very nice patina. The unusual aspect is where there is usually a sort of woven "rattan" covering on the handle this club has a native made cotton cover-probably a replacement but still pretty early. There is an old storage label from a "Bekins Moving" (an American moving company) in Albuquerque and the seller said it was in a small museum in New Mexico in the 50's. I collect Polynesian clubs and objects and a little African so this is out of my wheelhouse but it was so cheap and looked quite nice so I pulled the trigger. Any info on this club welcome. I've really enjoyed this thread and others-thanks... Sorry the photos are a little dark! I'll post one first to see if I'm doing it right...

2nd August 2015, 08:55 PM	#1
fireiceviper Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Posts: 87	@ Tim Simmons Love The club, really has that nice heavy look to it, probably super rare (but we wont know that in lets say 50 years...) does the wood almost feel like plastic because of its density? @ VANDOO It is actually the one from a few posts back! but I've made some better pictures... Edit: the pictures are in the wrong order...... Attached Images

22nd August 2015, 03:35 PM	#2
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,890	My latest, Kayabi. It is new-ish made for festival. They can be bigger but very hard to find. The pattern is cotton and cane. The cotton is painted with a resin so it is made hard and red coloured. Even in Indian lands fights most happen just as in our world. Shown with some Melanesian clubs of the same size. Attached Images

22nd August 2015, 09:25 PM	#3
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	A VERY NICE ATTRACTIVE CLUB TIM. ALSO GREAT TO SEE A PICTURE OF A TRIBESMAN WITH ONE. FIERCEVIPER THANKS FOR THE PICTURES OF THE SPEAR WITH THE NOTCHES THE SPEAR POINT AND PROTRUSIONS REMINDS ME OF A FORM USED BY THE KAXINAWA TRIBE AKA. HUNI KUIN FROM BRAZIL. #1 AND #2. A CEREMONIAL CLUB OR STAFF FROM THE AMAZON 34.5 IN. LONG X 1.5 IN DIAMETER. IT HAS SIMILAR NOTCHES BUT I AM NOT SURE WHAT GROUP IT COMES FROM OR OF ITS USE. #3 thru #6 A SHORT DANCE SPEAR KAXINAWA TRIBE 26.5 IN. LONG Attached Images Last edited by VANDOO; 22nd August 2015 at 09:45 PM.

27th August 2015, 02:21 AM	#4
fireiceviper Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Posts: 87	@Tim Simmons Wow like it it! but i like the small melanesian club (new caeldonian?) more! very nice! @Vandoo Thanks Vandoo, very similar indeed! i'm gonna research that region more,thank you! I also found another angle I came across some pictures (of a similar style spear with the same type of feather work as mine from the surinam region (its a stock photo site so i can't copy it or post it here). The small dance spear I've seen before but i have some doubts about it...looks a little bit crude in comparison to the rest, but i could be wrong!

27th August 2015, 06:46 PM	#5
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	THE SMALL DANCE SPEAR IS FAIRLY RECENT AND WAS MADE USING MODERN TOOLS POSSIBLY FOR TRIBAL CEREMONIES BUT LIKELY FOR SALE TO TOURISTS. ITS ACTUALLY WELL MADE FOR A SOUVENIR AND DOES HAVE SOME OF THE TRADITIONAL TRIBAL DESIGN I ASSOCIATE WITH THE KAXINAWA TRIBE. THERE IS A PICTURE OF SOME MORE OF THE TRIBES PEOPLE AND WEAPONS EARLIER IN THIS POST. I COULD BE WRONG AS OTHER TRIBES MAY MAKE THIS FORM OF SPEAR BUT SO FAR THE ONLY EXAMPLES I HAVE SEEN WERE FROM THIS TRIBE, SO ITS A GOOD PLACE TO START LOOKING.

21st October 2015, 07:38 PM	#6
fireiceviper Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Posts: 87	I know it's not really a weapon, but i thought i'd share I believe its from the Guyana/Surinam Area.. ( I also found another bow and arrow set, but haven't had time for pictures yet, but trust me its nice with feathers ) Attached Images