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			Yes, the photos were not published. sorry, can't share them because they're not mine to do so... But yes, just imagine a good old tough Bugis luk 7 blade with pamor kulit semangka, ujung gunong, wengkon, and a fair bit of akhodiat; the kembang kacang worn off a bit at the end; the luks are shallow but beautiful. There are no sogokans, lis-lisan, not much greneng.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			Ok, just to put an image to the description -- this is from my collection.  
		
		
		
			The Court Arts of Indonesia Bugis blade is of the same form, but nicer all round, and in better condition.  | 
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			You both bring out some good points (like the one on my head  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	  ).  I thought the workmanship on the one about which I speak was good on the gold dress, the pamor was interesting, though not of high contrast.  I guess the high-culture ones you speak are the ones in the museums and the books like "Court Arts of Indonesia".  | 
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			There are a few that I know of that are in private collections. But they are the 'imperfects' - i.e. missing sheaths, replacement sheaths of lesser qualities, sheaths and hilts with the gold and gems picked off, corroded blades (oh this is the saddest part -- you could see the blade was once magnificent, but now it's eaten away here and there). 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	As collectors, we can only hope for the best and when 'the one' comes along, give it our best shot.  
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   some fierce collectors (and some low keyed of course) there. Understand the 4rd keris in Man's post of 22nd also went to Spore.  
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 But.... I won't to give my opinion about that. Just at SWAP forum    I think John more knew about the kerises which 'flying' to Spore     
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