POWDER HORNS FOR COMMENT

BANDOOK · 26th July 2015, 12:41 PM

THANKS FERNANDO SO ITS A SCRIMSHAW HORN I ASSUME OF 1850s PERIOD ,cheers

JamesKelly · 13th August 2015, 11:55 PM

With respect, the faces look like 20th century people

The horns look Mexican

Generally the execution of the scrimshaw looks modern to me.

This is one reason I do not collect horns. I used to make them, and have enjoyed looking at other's work

It is not uncommon for people to make horns/powder horns/whatever here in the USA, for the last half century.

Sorry.

Rick · 14th August 2015, 05:48 PM

Unusual subject matter to have been made in either Mexico or the US and wind up on the other side of the world in a former British colony .

JamesKelly · 15th August 2015, 01:30 AM

In the US horns imported from Mexico are used for scrimshaw or powder horns. One might suspect such horns are broadly available worldwide.

Whatever the cow, these items, in my considered opinion, are 20th century at the earliest.

BANDOOK · 15th August 2015, 01:01 PM

THANKS FOR ALL INFORMATION SO FROM MEXICO TO NEW ZEALAND,WOW LONG JOURNEY,THESE REALLY LOOK OLD AND AMAZING PATINA,BUT SEEMS BY RECENT COMMENTS THEY HAVE BEEN MADE YESTERDAY ,ASSUME A MYSTERY???

Pukka Bundook · 15th August 2015, 01:44 PM

Yes, I believe these are recently made.
The scrimshaw is not of the type normally produced in the 19th century.
add to this the fact that they have not been finished into a useful article, either blowing horn or powder horn and all we can come up with is modern manufacture.
Mexican horns find their way all over, as many countries do not now have livestock with usable horns, so they may even have been made in your own country. Art-work decidedly modern.

Best wishes,
Richard.

26th July 2015, 12:41 PM	#1
BANDOOK Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: AUCKLAND,NEW ZEALAND Posts: 627	THANKS FERNANDO SO ITS A SCRIMSHAW HORN I ASSUME OF 1850s PERIOD ,cheers

13th August 2015, 11:55 PM	#2
JamesKelly Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Michigan, U.S.A. Posts: 108	With respect, the faces look like 20th century people The horns look Mexican Generally the execution of the scrimshaw looks modern to me. This is one reason I do not collect horns. I used to make them, and have enjoyed looking at other's work It is not uncommon for people to make horns/powder horns/whatever here in the USA, for the last half century. Sorry.

14th August 2015, 05:48 PM	#3
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,339	Unusual subject matter to have been made in either Mexico or the US and wind up on the other side of the world in a former British colony .

15th August 2015, 01:30 AM	#4
JamesKelly Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Michigan, U.S.A. Posts: 108	In the US horns imported from Mexico are used for scrimshaw or powder horns. One might suspect such horns are broadly available worldwide. Whatever the cow, these items, in my considered opinion, are 20th century at the earliest.

15th August 2015, 01:01 PM	#5
BANDOOK Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: AUCKLAND,NEW ZEALAND Posts: 627	THANKS FOR ALL INFORMATION SO FROM MEXICO TO NEW ZEALAND,WOW LONG JOURNEY,THESE REALLY LOOK OLD AND AMAZING PATINA,BUT SEEMS BY RECENT COMMENTS THEY HAVE BEEN MADE YESTERDAY ,ASSUME A MYSTERY???

15th August 2015, 01:44 PM	#6
Pukka Bundook Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 803	Yes, I believe these are recently made. The scrimshaw is not of the type normally produced in the 19th century. add to this the fact that they have not been finished into a useful article, either blowing horn or powder horn and all we can come up with is modern manufacture. Mexican horns find their way all over, as many countries do not now have livestock with usable horns, so they may even have been made in your own country. Art-work decidedly modern. Best wishes, Richard.