Jambiya with Crocodile incised blade

colin henshaw · 18th July 2015, 10:28 PM

I agree with Kubur, ...that cut-out crocodile motif is sometimes to be seen on straight Sudanese blades, often of the sheet metal variety.

Kubur · 18th July 2015, 11:04 PM

Last tought, last minute:
I have seen some Bou Saidi (Algerian / Kabyle) knifes with the same patterns "little suns" and the "finger nails"... Just to let you know.
But I still think like Colin that Sudan is the best candidate.

A.alnakkas · 19th July 2015, 05:12 AM

What are the dimensions? nice strange thing. I think its an Uromastyx rather than a crocodile! The construction of the item looks akin to shibriya (yes, some come with a similar curved blade rather than the usual shibriya blade) but it could be anything!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uromastyx

Kubur · 20th July 2015, 11:53 AM

Hi,
Please have a look at the book from Egerton of Tatton
notice n°197, blade with crocodile from Dongola, Sudan.
Best,
Kubur

Miguel · 20th July 2015, 01:23 PM

Thanks Guys your comments have been really helpful, special thanks to Kabur for guiding me to a ref book. I have been searching for an illustration showing a blade with a crocodile image without success.
Many thanks again
Miguel

Miguel · 2nd August 2015, 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kubur

Hi,
Please have a look at the book from Egerton of Tatton
notice n°197, blade with crocodile from Dongola, Sudan.
Best,
Kubur

Hi Kubur,
Thought you might be interested in this illustration that I have found in one of my books that I seldom refer to. you will see that fig 9 is an illustration of the sword described in Egerton`s book or one very similar and you can distinctly see the crocodile decoration on the blade.
Regards
Miguel

Kubur · 2nd August 2015, 04:33 PM

Yep it's the one.
But yours is a cross cultural object, Sudanese blade and Egyptian/Ottoman hilt and scabbard.

20th July 2015, 01:23 PM	#5
Miguel Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Posts: 584	Jambiya with Crockodile incised blade Thanks Guys your comments have been really helpful, special thanks to Kabur for guiding me to a ref book. I have been searching for an illustration showing a blade with a crocodile image without success. Many thanks again Miguel

18th July 2015, 10:28 PM	#1
colin henshaw Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,429	I agree with Kubur, ...that cut-out crocodile motif is sometimes to be seen on straight Sudanese blades, often of the sheet metal variety.

18th July 2015, 11:04 PM	#2
Kubur Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 2,145	Last tought, last minute: I have seen some Bou Saidi (Algerian / Kabyle) knifes with the same patterns "little suns" and the "finger nails"... Just to let you know. But I still think like Colin that Sudan is the best candidate.

19th July 2015, 05:12 AM	#3
A.alnakkas Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Kuwait Posts: 1,340	What are the dimensions? nice strange thing. I think its an Uromastyx rather than a crocodile! The construction of the item looks akin to shibriya (yes, some come with a similar curved blade rather than the usual shibriya blade) but it could be anything! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uromastyx

20th July 2015, 11:53 AM	#4
Kubur Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 2,145	Hi, Please have a look at the book from Egerton of Tatton notice n°197, blade with crocodile from Dongola, Sudan. Best, Kubur

2nd August 2015, 04:33 PM	#7
Kubur Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 2,145	Yep it's the one. But yours is a cross cultural object, Sudanese blade and Egyptian/Ottoman hilt and scabbard.