Need help in Translation

Spunjer · 3rd July 2015, 04:31 AM

reviving an old thread...
talked to a fellow forumite regarding the translation of the Jawi on this particular kris.
been bugging me for awhile, but after talking to Oliver here's what he have to say:
on one side it says "SANA" (year)
and on the other, it says 1234 (hijiri) which translates to either 1818 or 1819. i don't know of any reason why this particular date was inscribed other than perhaps when it was made?

Oliver Pinchot · 3rd July 2015, 06:41 PM

Ron, the presence of the word sana (year) clearly indicates that this is a date, however I reiterate for the forum that the third digit from the left isn't well-executed and for that reason may or may not be a 3. As for dating, given the unusual (and striking) work on the gangya and the grip, it may well date to the beginning of the 18th century. But such a date can also be referential; were there any events which took place in that year that would be commemorated by Muslim groups of Mindanao... if, as we discussed, it is in fact from one of those cultures?

3rd July 2015, 04:31 AM	#1
Spunjer Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Witness Protection Program Posts: 1,730	reviving an old thread... talked to a fellow forumite regarding the translation of the Jawi on this particular kris. been bugging me for awhile, but after talking to Oliver here's what he have to say: on one side it says "SANA" (year) and on the other, it says 1234 (hijiri) which translates to either 1818 or 1819. i don't know of any reason why this particular date was inscribed other than perhaps when it was made?

3rd July 2015, 06:41 PM	#2
Oliver Pinchot Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 470	Ron, the presence of the word sana (year) clearly indicates that this is a date, however I reiterate for the forum that the third digit from the left isn't well-executed and for that reason may or may not be a 3. As for dating, given the unusual (and striking) work on the gangya and the grip, it may well date to the beginning of the 18th century. But such a date can also be referential; were there any events which took place in that year that would be commemorated by Muslim groups of Mindanao... if, as we discussed, it is in fact from one of those cultures?