Keris Madura with Thai influences

A. G. Maisey · 16th June 2015, 09:03 AM

Hilt Madura, maybe blade too.

maxbliss888 · 31st October 2015, 06:04 PM

maxbliss888 · 31st October 2015, 06:07 PM

Keris....

maxbliss888 · 31st October 2015, 06:39 PM

Keris....
Thailand

David · 1st November 2015, 10:29 PM

Hi Max...i am afraid that there is nothing Thai about that hilt. Again i believe we are looking at a hilt from Madura, or possibly Northern Jawa. The pendokok at the base of this hilt i am not as certain about, but it is a mismatch with this particular hilt for sure and doesn't fit either by sizing or style.
I cannot comment on the blade since you have not posted a photo of it. I have seen variations of this scabbard form used with keris from both Sumatra and the Peninsula. Is there some reasoning you are using to identify this keris a Thai that you can share for a better understanding of what you are talking about?

A. G. Maisey · 1st November 2015, 11:23 PM

David, I think Max might be talking about the keris itself, ie, the blade, rather than the dress around the blade.

There is a school of thought that holds that only the blade is the keris, all else is irrelevant.

David · 2nd November 2015, 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by A. G. Maisey

David, I think Max might be talking about the keris itself, ie, the blade, rather than the dress around the blade.

There is a school of thought that holds that only the blade is the keris, all else is irrelevant.

Understood Alan, but without an image of the blade (or even with one) the point is moot...

A. G. Maisey · 2nd November 2015, 01:13 AM

Sorry David, my error, I was looking the keris in post #4.

maxbliss888 · 2nd November 2015, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by A. G. Maisey

David, I think Max might be talking about the keris itself, ie, the blade, rather than the dress around the blade.

There is a school of thought that holds that only the blade is the keris, all else is irrelevant.

Yes, I was referring to the blade itself. Sorry for the error as I was using my Ipad for my previous message and my ipad got hanged owing to the poor network...

David · 2nd November 2015, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by maxbliss888

Yes, I was referring to the blade itself. Sorry for the error as I was using my Ipad for my previous message and my ipad got hanged owing to the poor network...

No worries Max, but we still can't comment unless you are willing to post this particular blade.

31st October 2015, 06:04 PM	#2
maxbliss888 Member Join Date: May 2015 Location: Bangkok Posts: 150	Keris

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maxbliss888 Member Join Date: May 2015 Location: Bangkok Posts: 150	Keris Keris.... Attached Images

16th June 2015, 09:03 AM	#1
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,048	Hilt Madura, maybe blade too.

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maxbliss888 Member Join Date: May 2015 Location: Bangkok Posts: 150	Keris Keris.... Thailand

1st November 2015, 10:29 PM	#5
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,229	Hi Max...i am afraid that there is nothing Thai about that hilt. Again i believe we are looking at a hilt from Madura, or possibly Northern Jawa. The pendokok at the base of this hilt i am not as certain about, but it is a mismatch with this particular hilt for sure and doesn't fit either by sizing or style. I cannot comment on the blade since you have not posted a photo of it. I have seen variations of this scabbard form used with keris from both Sumatra and the Peninsula. Is there some reasoning you are using to identify this keris a Thai that you can share for a better understanding of what you are talking about?

1st November 2015, 11:23 PM	#6
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,048	David, I think Max might be talking about the keris itself, ie, the blade, rather than the dress around the blade. There is a school of thought that holds that only the blade is the keris, all else is irrelevant.

2nd November 2015, 01:13 AM	#8
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,048	Sorry David, my error, I was looking the keris in post #4.