Keris Coteng

BluErf · 13th June 2015, 05:20 AM

Good authentic cotengs! Glad you went to the right dealer and bought the right stuff. Well done!

The age of these kerises are very difficult to ascertain. They are probably pre-20th century, but even then, hard to be sure.

I have the idea that silver covered coteng are generally younger than the old plainer wooden ones. Tajongs and cotengs are related, and at some point shared a common ancestor. However, they evolved along their own paths and became distinct subforms. Hence, nit all cotengs are older than every tajong you see.

In terms of upper limits on age, the earliest coteng/tajong specimens found are probably around 2-300yrs old. So the proto-coteng probably came to the north Malay peninsula region around 16th-17th century. That's just theory though.

maxbliss888 · 13th June 2015, 11:42 AM

The Tajong are also getting harder to find here in Thailand as many have restored new handles.

Have you travelled to Trengganu? Are there many antique Tajong or Coteng there?

BluErf · 13th June 2015, 02:23 PM

Good ones are mostly in private collections. Mediocre ones for sale can still be found, but even then, they are getting harder to get and expensive.

maxbliss888 · 16th June 2015, 01:16 AM

Another Coteng to share..

maxbliss888 · 16th June 2015, 02:08 AM

There are many variations of Coteng. This example of Coteng has a sharper beak compare to the earlier..

rasdan · 16th June 2015, 06:35 AM

Does anybody know the purpose of keris coteng?

Everyday weapon use, court use, wedding keris or pusaka?

maxbliss888 · 16th June 2015, 03:20 PM

ı ʂ℘ơƙɛ ῳıɬɧ ą ʄɛῳ ƈơƖƖɛƈɬơཞs from Thailand, they have confirmed that these Coteng they found in the homes of the original owners were used by their ancestors...

13th June 2015, 11:42 AM	#2
maxbliss888 Member Join Date: May 2015 Location: Bangkok Posts: 150	Coteng The Tajong are also getting harder to find here in Thailand as many have restored new handles. Have you travelled to Trengganu? Are there many antique Tajong or Coteng there?

16th June 2015, 01:16 AM	#4
maxbliss888 Member Join Date: May 2015 Location: Bangkok Posts: 150	Coteng to share Another Coteng to share.. Attached Images

16th June 2015, 02:08 AM	#5
maxbliss888 Member Join Date: May 2015 Location: Bangkok Posts: 150	Coteng variations There are many variations of Coteng. This example of Coteng has a sharper beak compare to the earlier.. Attached Images

16th June 2015, 03:20 PM	#7
maxbliss888 Member Join Date: May 2015 Location: Bangkok Posts: 150	Coteng ı ʂ℘ơƙɛ ῳıɬɧ ą ʄɛῳ ƈơƖƖɛƈɬơཞs from Thailand, they have confirmed that these Coteng they found in the homes of the original owners were used by their ancestors... Attached Images

13th June 2015, 05:20 AM	#1
BluErf Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,180	Good authentic cotengs! Glad you went to the right dealer and bought the right stuff. Well done! The age of these kerises are very difficult to ascertain. They are probably pre-20th century, but even then, hard to be sure. I have the idea that silver covered coteng are generally younger than the old plainer wooden ones. Tajongs and cotengs are related, and at some point shared a common ancestor. However, they evolved along their own paths and became distinct subforms. Hence, nit all cotengs are older than every tajong you see. In terms of upper limits on age, the earliest coteng/tajong specimens found are probably around 2-300yrs old. So the proto-coteng probably came to the north Malay peninsula region around 16th-17th century. That's just theory though.

13th June 2015, 02:23 PM	#3
BluErf Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,180	Good ones are mostly in private collections. Mediocre ones for sale can still be found, but even then, they are getting harder to get and expensive.

16th June 2015, 06:35 AM	#6
rasdan Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Kuala Lumpur Posts: 369	Does anybody know the purpose of keris coteng? Everyday weapon use, court use, wedding keris or pusaka?