ANOTHER BANDOLIER...Origins please?

kahnjar1 · 7th May 2015, 09:17 AM

Yes that is Omani, but nothing like the one I was requesting information on.

rickystl · 9th May 2015, 08:15 PM

Hi Stu.
Me think it's trying to grow legs to walk/swim to MY house. LOL!!
That is very cool!! And would go perfectly with MY Jazail. LOL!!
My guess is Afghan or Ottoman. Unlike the metal Ottoman/Greek bullet containers used to carry pre-formed combustible type cartridges (powder/paper/ball), the wood containers look like they were designed to carry just pre-measured powder charges. And a very clever design with the fabric/leather fold over stoppers. It looks like the buckle has a roller. That might place it a bit latter in the 19th Century (?).
A VERY neat item. Congrats.
Rick.

kahnjar1 · 9th May 2015, 10:03 PM

Hi Rick,
The sellers description was AFGHAN but I am more inclined to think Ottoman. The containers are wood, so likely to be for measured doses of powder rather than complete cartridges. The stoppers are totally leather--no woolfibre stoppers as in the Omani bandolier which I have in my collection and YES the buckle has a roller.
Here are pics of two similar shaped bandoliers sold by Hermann Historica, and described as Ottoman.
Stu

rickystl · 10th May 2015, 05:44 PM

Hi Stu.
Based on these two photos, it does appear to be Ottoman. The gold/silver stitch design sure looks Ottoman. Again, very good find.
Also, if we determine the origin is Ottoman, we could conclude that it would look really good with MY Ottoman Tufuk Rifle I recently posted. LOL !!

Rick.

Kubur · 10th May 2015, 05:58 PM

I totally agree with Rick and Stu, Ottoman.
But as you may know, Ottoman for me is just a period and an Empire full of different people. So where your belt come from? You had Ottomans from Aden to Sarajevo...

Kubur · 15th May 2015, 10:57 AM

Sold by a famous dealer
Antique Turkish Leather Cartridge Case

You was right.
Kubur

rickystl · 16th May 2015, 05:46 PM

Looks like the evidence is mounting that Stu's Bandolier is likely Ottoman. So I'm going to agree. Thanks for the Post Kubur. Rick.

9th May 2015, 10:03 PM	#3
kahnjar1 Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: CHRISTCHURCH NEW ZEALAND Posts: 2,789	Hi Rick, The sellers description was AFGHAN but I am more inclined to think Ottoman. The containers are wood, so likely to be for measured doses of powder rather than complete cartridges. The stoppers are totally leather--no woolfibre stoppers as in the Omani bandolier which I have in my collection and YES the buckle has a roller. Here are pics of two similar shaped bandoliers sold by Hermann Historica, and described as Ottoman. Stu Attached Images

15th May 2015, 10:57 AM	#6
Kubur Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 2,145	Sold by a famous dealer Antique Turkish Leather Cartridge Case You was right. Kubur Attached Images

7th May 2015, 09:17 AM	#1
kahnjar1 Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: CHRISTCHURCH NEW ZEALAND Posts: 2,789	Yes that is Omani, but nothing like the one I was requesting information on.

9th May 2015, 08:15 PM	#2
rickystl Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: St. Louis, MO area. Posts: 1,632	Hi Stu. Me think it's trying to grow legs to walk/swim to MY house. LOL!! That is very cool!! And would go perfectly with MY Jazail. LOL!! My guess is Afghan or Ottoman. Unlike the metal Ottoman/Greek bullet containers used to carry pre-formed combustible type cartridges (powder/paper/ball), the wood containers look like they were designed to carry just pre-measured powder charges. And a very clever design with the fabric/leather fold over stoppers. It looks like the buckle has a roller. That might place it a bit latter in the 19th Century (?). A VERY neat item. Congrats. Rick.

10th May 2015, 05:44 PM	#4
rickystl Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: St. Louis, MO area. Posts: 1,632	Hi Stu. Based on these two photos, it does appear to be Ottoman. The gold/silver stitch design sure looks Ottoman. Again, very good find. Also, if we determine the origin is Ottoman, we could conclude that it would look really good with MY Ottoman Tufuk Rifle I recently posted. LOL !! Rick.

10th May 2015, 05:58 PM	#5
Kubur Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 2,145	I totally agree with Rick and Stu, Ottoman. But as you may know, Ottoman for me is just a period and an Empire full of different people. So where your belt come from? You had Ottomans from Aden to Sarajevo...

16th May 2015, 05:46 PM	#7
rickystl Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: St. Louis, MO area. Posts: 1,632	Looks like the evidence is mounting that Stu's Bandolier is likely Ottoman. So I'm going to agree. Thanks for the Post Kubur. Rick.