TEPPO WITH HEAVY BARREL NEED TRANSLATION

Cerjak · 27th April 2015, 06:24 PM

Additional information I have just received

"Hello Cerjac, this type of gun was made in Yonezawa from the early 1600s and followed a pattern (iron ramrod, etc.) that was distinct from other Japanese Tanegashima type guns and kept up until the late 1860s. Seki-Ryu, like yours, was almost exactly the same shape and style although more decorated, and again they followed roughly the same spec. The signature may help us to narrow down the date, but do not expect too much. We can say that your gun was made probably in late Edo, ie 1800-1850, but possibly earlier."

estcrh · 28th April 2015, 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Cerjak

Additional information I have just received

"Hello Cerjac, this type of gun was made in Yonezawa from the early 1600s and followed a pattern (iron ramrod, etc.) that was distinct from other Japanese Tanegashima type guns and kept up until the late 1860s. Seki-Ryu, like yours, was almost exactly the same shape and style although more decorated, and again they followed roughly the same spec. The signature may help us to narrow down the date, but do not expect too much. We can say that your gun was made probably in late Edo, ie 1800-1850, but possibly earlier."

Here is the seki and yonezawa compared. Yours may be missing a barrel band.

Cerjak · 28th April 2015, 03:21 PM

Dear estcrh,
I can notice that the SEKI type is more like mine with a shorter “dai”,also the shape from the “Karakuri” is different the pictures are not so good but you could see that the Seki “Karakuri” looks more similar too.
I would be interested to find better pictures to see more examples but based on this photos the Seki seems to be the good model.
I have remove the barrel but unfortunately there is not any more marks.

Best

Cerjak

Cerjak · 1st May 2015, 12:04 PM

Two answers from Nihonto Message Board

"The numbers say 壬申 802.
This gun barrel was recorded in one of the Meiji general registration round-ups starting in 1873."

"Probably the famous first one in 1873, as that was a Jinshin 壬申 year.

Something like X治懸　in Imabari Ken, but the first character of the old name of the Prefecture eludes me. "

28th April 2015, 03:21 PM	#3
Cerjak Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: FRANCE Posts: 1,065	Dear estcrh, I can notice that the SEKI type is more like mine with a shorter “dai”,also the shape from the “Karakuri” is different the pictures are not so good but you could see that the Seki “Karakuri” looks more similar too. I would be interested to find better pictures to see more examples but based on this photos the Seki seems to be the good model. I have remove the barrel but unfortunately there is not any more marks. Best Cerjak Attached Images

1st May 2015, 12:04 PM	#4
Cerjak Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: FRANCE Posts: 1,065	translation found ! Two answers from Nihonto Message Board "The numbers say 壬申 802. This gun barrel was recorded in one of the Meiji general registration round-ups starting in 1873." "Probably the famous first one in 1873, as that was a Jinshin 壬申 year. Something like X治懸　in Imabari Ken, but the first character of the old name of the Prefecture eludes me. "

27th April 2015, 06:24 PM	#1
Cerjak Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: FRANCE Posts: 1,065	Additional information I have just received "Hello Cerjac, this type of gun was made in Yonezawa from the early 1600s and followed a pattern (iron ramrod, etc.) that was distinct from other Japanese Tanegashima type guns and kept up until the late 1860s. Seki-Ryu, like yours, was almost exactly the same shape and style although more decorated, and again they followed roughly the same spec. The signature may help us to narrow down the date, but do not expect too much. We can say that your gun was made probably in late Edo, ie 1800-1850, but possibly earlier."