Munich town guard swords

E.B. Erickson · 21st April 2015, 02:26 PM

Some of the stats of the Wallace collection sword may be found here along with a discussion of this type of sword:
http://www.myarmoury.com/talk/viewtopic.php?p=142023

And here are some stats from the Higgins Armoury's example.
http://www.higgins-collection.org/artifacts/2005.02

POB and distal taper are not usually something museums bother with. However, you may be able to find the information that you're after by searching HEMA, WMA, and ARMA sites. ARMA would probably be your best bet.

Hope this is of some help.

--ElJay

kisak · 1st May 2015, 01:27 PM

The Army Museum in Stockholm has one.

https://digitaltmuseum.se/0110244174...s=10&count=674

If I'm to translate the interesting bits, it was given to the museum by a colonel Theodor Jakobsson, who is to have bought it form the Bayerisches army museum in Dresden in the twenties.

Somewhat remarkable is that the museum associates it with Pappenheim's cavalry.

Total length 99cm, blade 77.5cm, weight 1410g. Maximum blade width 54mm. The ricasso is 65mm long, tapering from 28mm where it transitions into the blade to 19mm at the hilt. Both sides of the ricasso stamped with a crowned S over T, and the inside also stamped with a crowned H Z.

corrado26 · 11th May 2015, 12:42 PM

Theodor Jakobsson couldn't habe bought this piece in Dresden because the Bavarian Army Museum was in the 1920s situated in the Bavarian city of Munic, not in the Saxon city of Dresden.
By the way: These swords of the Munic city guard are known as "Standler Rapiers".
corrado26

Jim McDougall · 11th May 2015, 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by corrado26

Theodor Jakobsson couldn't habe bought this piece in Dresden because the Bavarian Army Museum was in the 1920s situated in the Bavarian city of Munic, not in the Saxon city of Dresden.
By the way: These swords of the Munic city guard are known as "Standler Rapiers".
corrado26

Excellent input Corrado, thank you!
Interesting note to the colloquially used term 'Stantler rapiers' for these Munich town guard swords. It seems that the Munich produced examples were made by that maker (see my post #4).....and it was long popularly held apparently that these were 'all' made in Munich...however it seems some Solingen examples produced as well.

kisak · 11th May 2015, 11:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by corrado26

Theodor Jakobsson couldn't habe bought this piece in Dresden because the Bavarian Army Museum was in the 1920s situated in the Bavarian city of Munic, not in the Saxon city of Dresden.
By the way: These swords of the Munic city guard are known as "Standler Rapiers".
corrado26

Checking the page again it says Münich ("Bayerisches Armeemuseum i München."). Where I got Dresden from, well, maybe best to not even ask.

corrado26 · 12th May 2015, 12:37 PM

For Information:
The Bavarian Army Museum today is situated in the city of Ingolstadt about 150 km north of Munich.
corrado26

21st April 2015, 02:26 PM	#1
E.B. Erickson Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 61	Some of the stats of the Wallace collection sword may be found here along with a discussion of this type of sword: http://www.myarmoury.com/talk/viewtopic.php?p=142023 And here are some stats from the Higgins Armoury's example. http://www.higgins-collection.org/artifacts/2005.02 POB and distal taper are not usually something museums bother with. However, you may be able to find the information that you're after by searching HEMA, WMA, and ARMA sites. ARMA would probably be your best bet. Hope this is of some help. --ElJay

1st May 2015, 01:27 PM	#2
kisak Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Stockholm Posts: 182	The Army Museum in Stockholm has one. https://digitaltmuseum.se/0110244174...s=10&count=674 If I'm to translate the interesting bits, it was given to the museum by a colonel Theodor Jakobsson, who is to have bought it form the Bayerisches army museum in Dresden in the twenties. Somewhat remarkable is that the museum associates it with Pappenheim's cavalry. Total length 99cm, blade 77.5cm, weight 1410g. Maximum blade width 54mm. The ricasso is 65mm long, tapering from 28mm where it transitions into the blade to 19mm at the hilt. Both sides of the ricasso stamped with a crowned S over T, and the inside also stamped with a crowned H Z.

11th May 2015, 12:42 PM	#3
corrado26 Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Black Forest, Germany Posts: 1,239	Theodor Jakobsson couldn't habe bought this piece in Dresden because the Bavarian Army Museum was in the 1920s situated in the Bavarian city of Munic, not in the Saxon city of Dresden. By the way: These swords of the Munic city guard are known as "Standler Rapiers". corrado26

12th May 2015, 12:37 PM	#6
corrado26 Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Black Forest, Germany Posts: 1,239	For Information: The Bavarian Army Museum today is situated in the city of Ingolstadt about 150 km north of Munich. corrado26