Catalogue of my collection

nechesh · 12th December 2005, 02:35 PM

There are reports from Chinese contacts as early as th 14th and 15th century that speak of demon hilted daggers. Whether or not these were actually meant to be raksasa we will probably never know. I am not sure how far back the floral figure goes. As with all writings on keris i think we can only look to Kerner as a pointer, not the final word on the subject.

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Originally Posted by BluErf

As for the floral motifs being embellishments, I thought it is no longer mere embellishment when it replaces vital features such as the eyes, nose, mouth, arms.

Yes, i would agree, it is no longer an embellisment at that point, it is a form.
What do you make of hilts where there is much floral embellishment, but the face, eyes, nose and all is clearly delineated. These hilts are obviously not trying to hide the fact that the hilt is a figure, but still uses great amounts of floral embellishment that is typical to that area.

BluErf · 13th December 2005, 02:13 PM

Yep, all books on kerises/krises provide pointers which we have to read with a pinch of salt sometimes. But the book I was referring to was written by Karsten Jensen, not Martin Kerner.

nechesh · 13th December 2005, 03:05 PM

Oops!

Yeah, i've got Kerner on the mind because i am about to receive one of his books. But you are right, they ALL must be taken with a grain of salt.

simatua · 13th December 2005, 07:48 PM

Thanks for the invitation BlueErf ! (to join the kampungnet and place photo's from my collection.)
I managed myself into the site from kampungnet.
Got last weeknd a digital camara from my wife. I started already a try out of my collection on kampungnet.

Someone ??? Did a great job for me on the outside of the album !!!
I dont know who did it.? thanks a very very ....very lot !!!

This coming weekend i will take good pictures and place a lot more it on the site.
hoping everyone can enjoy and learning from eachother.

greets

Alam Shah · 14th December 2005, 02:55 AM

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Originally Posted by simatua

Thanks for the invitation BlueErf ! (to join the kampungnet and place photo's from my collection.)
I managed myself into the site from kampungnet.
Got last weeknd a digital camara from my wife. I started already a try out of my collection on kampungnet.

Someone ??? Did a great job for me on the outside of the album !!!
I dont know who did it.? thanks a very very ....very lot !!!

This coming weekend i will take good pictures and place a lot more it on the site.
hoping everyone can enjoy and learning from each other.

greets

That's the spirit.

Welcome aboard. Lovely Karno Tinanding keris...
At this point, I would like to invite everyone to create a personal keris gallery at kampungnet. May we learn and enjoy each other's pieces.

John · 14th December 2005, 03:23 AM

Simatua, I believe it was Alam Shah who did your cover at the KN gallery. He also did it for me when I started as well as assisted in arranging and captioning the initial pictures prior to me getting the hang of it. Good to see you breaking boundary of being the first Western collector there.

Would certainly like to see the pool expanding with more collector sharing even if you have one or two pieces...

BluErf · 14th December 2005, 02:26 PM

More pics pls!!!

13th December 2005, 07:48 PM	#4
simatua Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 69	website cataloque on kampungnet Thanks for the invitation BlueErf ! (to join the kampungnet and place photo's from my collection.) I managed myself into the site from kampungnet. Got last weeknd a digital camara from my wife. I started already a try out of my collection on kampungnet. Someone ??? Did a great job for me on the outside of the album !!! I dont know who did it.? thanks a very very ....very lot !!! This coming weekend i will take good pictures and place a lot more it on the site. hoping everyone can enjoy and learning from eachother. greets

13th December 2005, 02:13 PM	#2
BluErf Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,180	Yep, all books on kerises/krises provide pointers which we have to read with a pinch of salt sometimes. But the book I was referring to was written by Karsten Jensen, not Martin Kerner.

13th December 2005, 03:05 PM	#3
nechesh Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 940	Oops! Yeah, i've got Kerner on the mind because i am about to receive one of his books. But you are right, they ALL must be taken with a grain of salt.

14th December 2005, 03:23 AM	#6
John Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Land below the wind Posts: 135	Simatua, I believe it was Alam Shah who did your cover at the KN gallery. He also did it for me when I started as well as assisted in arranging and captioning the initial pictures prior to me getting the hang of it. Good to see you breaking boundary of being the first Western collector there. Would certainly like to see the pool expanding with more collector sharing even if you have one or two pieces...

14th December 2005, 02:26 PM	#7
BluErf Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,180	More pics pls!!!