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Old 24th February 2015, 06:16 PM   #1
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I am unsure about the origin of the blade; could it be European, the tip of a small sword or so? The forging is very fine and flawless. The shape and the symmetry are close to perfection; one still can see the hammer strokes, one by another in a narrow row, breathtaking for me. It is obviously laminated steel but hard to see if folded mono-steel or pattern welded steel of more than one kind (pic 3 & 4). It needs special equipment to forge such a type of blade, like different hammers with v-shaped cuts as far as I know. This makes me believe, it could be European. What is the opinion of the experts here?
Well, i'm no "expert", but i see no reason not to accept this as an indigenous Indonesian blade. I know we have seen this form before, but i just can't find the thread yet. I'll keep searching. Perhaps someone else remembers. Believe me Roland, there are plenty examples of "fine and flawless" forging from SEA. The Europeans did not have a monopoly on such skills.
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Well, i'm no "expert", but i see no reason not to accept this as an indigenous Indonesian blade. I know we have seen this form before, but i just can't find the thread yet. I'll keep searching. Perhaps someone else remembers. Believe me Roland, there are plenty examples of "fine and flawless" forging from SEA. The Europeans did not have a monopoly on such skills.
Did you mean this thread :

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...=spear+bayonet

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Old 24th February 2015, 08:50 PM   #3
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Here is an old spear with a similar point. old rusty.
I think its sumatran.
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Old 25th February 2015, 07:29 AM   #4
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Did you mean this thread :

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...=spear+bayonet

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Bingo! Thanks Willem, that's the one.
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Old 25th February 2015, 09:38 PM   #5
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Well, i'm no "expert", but i see no reason not to accept this as an indigenous Indonesian blade. I know we have seen this form before, but i just can't find the thread yet. I'll keep searching. Perhaps someone else remembers. Believe me Roland, there are plenty examples of "fine and flawless" forging from SEA. The Europeans did not have a monopoly on such skills.
Tank you for your comment. Please do not misunderstand me. I am full of respect for asian forging. I have one absolutely flawless forged mandau with differential hardened blade and human hair tuft. It easily reaches best european Quality.

In the near future i will present a granular wootz dagger sculpture, which is far above european quality, simply incredible.

Best wishes Roland
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