Arab saif of Syrian style or Kilij saber for ID.

Battara · 21st February 2015, 06:22 PM

From what I can tell, it is indeed Syrian, especially in hilt style.

Kubur · 21st February 2015, 08:13 PM

Yes, Syrian
But what about the blade, do you have any marks?
Could be Persian... Doesnt look styrian or Eastern European as it was often the case...

Cerjak · 21st February 2015, 08:19 PM

Hi Kubur

Unfortunately there isn't any mark on the blade.

Best

Cerjak

Battara · 21st February 2015, 11:29 PM

Can you provide close ups of the blade where it is clean?

Cerjak · 22nd February 2015, 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Battara

Can you provide close ups of the blade where it is clean?

close ups of the blade

Battara · 22nd February 2015, 04:23 PM

Hard to tell what kind of wootz, if any, is in this blade. The type of wootz would indicate if Persian or Turkish, or if it is pattern welded.

A.alnakkas · 22nd February 2015, 04:55 PM

Hard to tell if its wootz or not without a clean up and an etch. With Syrian hilted swords I am less inclined to say something is wootz with such condition, that is because the industry there can make blades in any shape. What can help us further if you take photos of the spine, it may show a hairline crack on the spine and the Syrian craftsmen often make swords with odd distal tapering. But this one looks genuinely old, the hilt too, maybe 19th century as its silver fitted. The iron fitted ones are often early to very late 20th century. Worth checking if its silver and not some white metal.

21st February 2015, 06:22 PM	#1
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,280	From what I can tell, it is indeed Syrian, especially in hilt style.

21st February 2015, 08:13 PM	#2
Kubur Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 2,145	Yes, Syrian But what about the blade, do you have any marks? Could be Persian... Doesnt look styrian or Eastern European as it was often the case...

21st February 2015, 08:19 PM	#3
Cerjak Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: FRANCE Posts: 1,065	Hi Kubur Unfortunately there isn't any mark on the blade. Best Cerjak

21st February 2015, 11:29 PM	#4
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,280	Can you provide close ups of the blade where it is clean?

22nd February 2015, 04:23 PM	#6
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,280	Hard to tell what kind of wootz, if any, is in this blade. The type of wootz would indicate if Persian or Turkish, or if it is pattern welded.

22nd February 2015, 04:55 PM	#7
A.alnakkas Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Kuwait Posts: 1,340	Hard to tell if its wootz or not without a clean up and an etch. With Syrian hilted swords I am less inclined to say something is wootz with such condition, that is because the industry there can make blades in any shape. What can help us further if you take photos of the spine, it may show a hairline crack on the spine and the Syrian craftsmen often make swords with odd distal tapering. But this one looks genuinely old, the hilt too, maybe 19th century as its silver fitted. The iron fitted ones are often early to very late 20th century. Worth checking if its silver and not some white metal.