Unusual Gunong To Share

[Robert]

Hello Jose, The first time I saw this dagger I was thinking the same thing about it once having inlay, but after it arrived I could find no evidence that it ever did. The engraving has very sharp edges and shows no signs of ever being peened to hold inlay in place. I wish that I could take a better photo that would show the chisel marks that are in the undercut areas that are used to highlight the design itself. Most of the main line design has a raised edge on one side of the groove only which would make it very hard to keep any inlaid material in place. What would be your opinion on the age of this piece be? Going by the hilt style alone I would guess it to be somewhere between 1910 and 1930, but that is only a guess as it could be later and the hilt style could have just been copied from an earlier example.

Best,
Robert

[Sajen]

Hello Robert,

what a beautiful transforming. Like said before, I am also never have seen this way of engraving before by a gunong blade. The handle style is an early one, I would guess also by the ferrule style that this gunong is from 1900-1920. May I ask you how you have closed the splits in the wooden handle?

Regards,
Detlef

[Spunjer]

Hello Robert
nice catch! your gunong could be older; say late 1800's? here's a gunong that was made prior to 1900. the pommel appears to be made out of banati wood. really digging that!

[Spunjer]

as far as provenance, IMHO i think it's of Maranao origin. the okir is reminiscent of a Maranao panolong, or extension beams, on their homes. here's an example:
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...hlight=torogan (specifically, post 18 and 19)

[Spunjer]

Originally Posted by Robert

The first time I saw this dagger I was thinking the same thing about it once having inlay, but after it arrived I could find no evidence that it ever did. The engraving has very sharp edges and shows no signs of ever being peened to hold inlay in place. I wish that I could take a better photo that would show the chisel marks that are in the undercut areas that are used to highlight the design itself. Most of the main line design has a raised edge on one side of the groove only which would make it very hard to keep any inlaid material in place.

Best,
Robert

I'm with you that this didn't have any prior inlay. here's a picture of a similar style on a spearhead. as a matter of fact, this particular piece was brought back by Mr. Hayes, and was attributed to the Maranaos. hope this helps...

[Battara]

I misspoke earlier - Maranao and not Maguindanao. Thanks for the correction Ron.

I would also agree with the age mentioned. Many of these seem to be from Mindanao, usually Maranao or Maguindanao.

[Spunjer]

no prob, jose.
can't wait til next month and get together with the gang! i say we go back to the Thai place and see Rick sweat! that there is worth it, lol!!!

[RSWORD]

Originally Posted by Spunjer

no prob, jose.
can't wait til next month and get together with the gang! i say we go back to the Thai place and see Rick sweat! that there is worth it, lol!!!

LOL! As I recall, I was the only Thai hot all the way guy that night while you and Jose were begging for extra mild! One thing is for sure! We get some good food on that trip!

[Spunjer]

Originally Posted by RSWORD

LOL! As I recall, I was the only Thai hot all the way guy that night while you and Jose were begging for extra mild! One thing is for sure! We get some good food on that trip!

amen to that!

you're welcome, robert.
and you're more than welcome to join us in Kentucky at the end of February. dunno if that's closer to you?

[Battara]

Originally Posted by RSWORD

LOL! As I recall, I was the only Thai hot all the way guy that night while you and Jose were begging for extra mild! One thing is for sure! We get some good food on that trip!

Rick I'm part Tagalog, Irish, and Cherokee: we don't do VOLCANIC HOT!

[Battara]

And yes Robert, you are by all means welcome (and perhaps see my humble little collection and tiny workshop! )

[Battara]

Originally Posted by Spunjer

no prob, jose.
can't wait til next month and get together with the gang! i say we go back to the Thai place and see Rick sweat! that there is worth it, lol!!!

That restaurant is gone.

Alas no more "Rick the Red."

[Robert]

May I ask you how you have closed the splits in the wooden handle?

Hello Detlef, Normally after warming the blade and removing it from the hilt and guard assembly I soak the wood for a few hours in distilled water to help soften and remove any built up dirt and debris and help prepare it for gluing. I then use a brush to remove any stubborn built-up contaminates. On this piece when I removed the hilt and guard assembly the hilt separated into two pieces like the gunong listed in this previous thread. http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ghlight=gunong It also made it easier to clean the two surfaces for bonding as well as removing any old resin from the tang socket. After hand fitting the two pieces a couple of times to make sure both halves fit back together with no gaps I apply the glue. I use Elmer's Carpenter's Glue now as I cannot find the marine glue that I previously used. I apply a thin coating to both surfaces, align both pieces and press them together. Holding them in this position I then use 1/4 inch wide rubber bands and starting in the center wind them around the piece as tightly as I can get them cleaning any excess glue from the piece as I go. This is done for the entire length of the area being bonded. I then place a second layer of the bands over the first to make for a very strong and even pressure along the glue seams. I also use dampened cotton swabs to remove any excess glue that has been squeezed into the tang socket during the gluing process. The piece is then allowed to dry for a minimum of 72 hours before removing the bands. If you have been very careful the glue seam is almost invisible when when dried. After any glue that might have been missed during clamping I burnish the entire surface and hand rub it with tung oil until I get the desired finish. I then hand polish it using Ren Wax applied to a piece of sheepskin. I hope that this answers your question.

Best,
Robert

[Robert]

Hello Ron, and thank you for all the great information and links to the other items with this style of engraving. The kris with the dragon/naga engraved down the entire length of the blade is magnificent!! I just wish my health and finances would allow me to attend Timonium this year as I would very much like to meet at least some of the people who have been of such great help and assistance to me over the years. Like everything else, I guess that there is always next year. Thanks again for all the information.

Best,
Robert

[Sajen]

Originally Posted by Robert

I hope that this answers your question.

Yes, it does! Thank you very much. You have done a great restore job. Congratulations for this and also for this very nice gunong.

Regards,
Detlef