Long Philippine Swords

VANDOO · 2nd December 2005, 01:09 AM

FROM WHAT LITTLE I COULD GATHER FROM POSTS AND THE SITE LISTED IT WOULD SEEM THAT THE NAME CAME ABOUT IN A CERTAIN PLACE AT A CERTAIN TIME AND WAS USED BY ONE PARTICULAR GROUP OF FIGHTERS IN THAT CONFLICT.
IT IS BASICALY A KLEWANG TYPE BUT DUE TO THE REGION WHERE IT WAS USED AND THE GROUP USING IT NOW IT HAS A DIFFERENT NAME AT LEAST IN THAT REGION. IN ANOTHER PLACE AT ANOTHER TIME IT MAY GAIN A NEW NAME DUE TO THE GROUP USING IT OR THE CONFLICT IT IS USED IN.

NO WONDER ITS SO CONFUSING AS THERE ARE MANY FACTORS INVOLVED IN A NAME SO IT IS NOT UNUSUAL THAT ONE FORM MAY HAVE MANY NAMES. 1. REGION 2. TRIBE OR GROUP 3. TIME PERIOD 4. NAMES APPLIED TO IT BY THE OTHER SIDE IN THE CONFLICT AND PROBABLY A FEW MORE FACTORS I HAVE NOT THOUGHT OF. I HAVE SEVERAL OF THESE ONE EVEN HAS A BUILT IN KNUCKLE DUSTER GAURD SO THERE IS ALSO 5. VARIATION WITHIN THE TYPE.
IF PEOPLE ARE INVOLVED THINGS ARE BOUND TO GET COMPLICATED (MURPHYS LAW #657 )

BSMStar · 2nd December 2005, 01:28 AM

As my children would say on any long journey..... are we there yet????

MABAGANI · 2nd December 2005, 05:28 AM

I was willing to pick it up from you if you didn't like it because my swordbrother lost it in an outbid, even though we thought it was overpriced, its not for me, I have an old one already. I like Moro sundang...
btw I did pass on a few things you bid on because I knew you were from the forum.
I aired my observation of current ebay trends and like I wrote I'd rather go back to dealers and pay top dollar for quality examples rather than take a chance on auction photos.

zelbone · 2nd December 2005, 05:32 AM

...it's a bolo

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MABAGANI · 2nd December 2005, 05:36 AM

i heard, i have that bolo already.lolz

Federico · 2nd December 2005, 07:42 AM

I vote that we as Filipinos,......form a union and declare that from now on, ......all weapons from the Sandata, .....shall for here forth be ever know as, .................."pig-stickers"

Just think about it, no more lost nights and money doing research, or reduced health from breathing in the dust from 100 year old books. We will then all know that there is just one simple answer to all our questions.

Thus the allure of the Sandata will fade for non-Filipinos, and we can go on to horde them all to ourselves

Oh wait did I say the quiet part out loud again.

MABAGANI · 2nd December 2005, 08:12 AM

...unless its a barung.
No need to reprimand, if you followed the thread for the most part posts were lighthearted. The irony from the beginning was posting photos and asking questions after outbidding the guys who likely had the answers. The answers were not straightforward but if you read closely they were answered.

LabanTayo · 2nd December 2005, 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Federico

I vote that we as Filipinos,......form a union and declare that from now on, ......all weapons from the Sandata, .....shall for here forth be ever know as, .................."pig-stickers"

Just think about it, no more lost nights and money doing research, or reduced health from breathing in the dust from 100 year old books. We will then all know that there is just one simple answer to all our questions.

Thus the allure of the Sandata will fade for non-Filipinos, and we can go on to horde them all to ourselves

Oh wait did I say the quiet part out loud again.

Federico, good idea, brother.
But, what is "pig-sticker" in Waray-Waray?
Spunjer can say it the Illongo way, Zel will say it the Aklanon/Batangueno way, I'll say it the Tagalog/Kapampangan way, Themorningstar will say the Tausug way, Mabagani will say it his way, Battara his way and so on and so on.
Then we'll have a new list of names to be confused with.

2nd December 2005, 05:28 AM	#3
MABAGANI Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 221	I was willing to pick it up from you if you didn't like it because my swordbrother lost it in an outbid, even though we thought it was overpriced, its not for me, I have an old one already. I like Moro sundang... btw I did pass on a few things you bid on because I knew you were from the forum. I aired my observation of current ebay trends and like I wrote I'd rather go back to dealers and pay top dollar for quality examples rather than take a chance on auction photos. Last edited by MABAGANI; 2nd December 2005 at 06:22 AM.

2nd December 2005, 01:09 AM	#1
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	FROM WHAT LITTLE I COULD GATHER FROM POSTS AND THE SITE LISTED IT WOULD SEEM THAT THE NAME CAME ABOUT IN A CERTAIN PLACE AT A CERTAIN TIME AND WAS USED BY ONE PARTICULAR GROUP OF FIGHTERS IN THAT CONFLICT. IT IS BASICALY A KLEWANG TYPE BUT DUE TO THE REGION WHERE IT WAS USED AND THE GROUP USING IT NOW IT HAS A DIFFERENT NAME AT LEAST IN THAT REGION. IN ANOTHER PLACE AT ANOTHER TIME IT MAY GAIN A NEW NAME DUE TO THE GROUP USING IT OR THE CONFLICT IT IS USED IN. NO WONDER ITS SO CONFUSING AS THERE ARE MANY FACTORS INVOLVED IN A NAME SO IT IS NOT UNUSUAL THAT ONE FORM MAY HAVE MANY NAMES. 1. REGION 2. TRIBE OR GROUP 3. TIME PERIOD 4. NAMES APPLIED TO IT BY THE OTHER SIDE IN THE CONFLICT AND PROBABLY A FEW MORE FACTORS I HAVE NOT THOUGHT OF. I HAVE SEVERAL OF THESE ONE EVEN HAS A BUILT IN KNUCKLE DUSTER GAURD SO THERE IS ALSO 5. VARIATION WITHIN THE TYPE. IF PEOPLE ARE INVOLVED THINGS ARE BOUND TO GET COMPLICATED (MURPHYS LAW #657 )

2nd December 2005, 01:28 AM	#2
BSMStar Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Kansas City, MO USA Posts: 312	As my children would say on any long journey..... are we there yet????

2nd December 2005, 05:32 AM	#4
zelbone Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: VISAYAS and MINDANAO Posts: 169	...it's a bolo !

2nd December 2005, 05:36 AM	#5
MABAGANI Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 221	i heard, i have that bolo already.lolz

2nd December 2005, 07:42 AM	#6
Federico Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Minneapolis, MN, USA Posts: 312	I vote that we as Filipinos,......form a union and declare that from now on, ......all weapons from the Sandata, .....shall for here forth be ever know as, .................."pig-stickers" Just think about it, no more lost nights and money doing research, or reduced health from breathing in the dust from 100 year old books. We will then all know that there is just one simple answer to all our questions. Thus the allure of the Sandata will fade for non-Filipinos, and we can go on to horde them all to ourselves Oh wait did I say the quiet part out loud again.

2nd December 2005, 08:12 AM	#7
MABAGANI Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 221	...unless its a barung. No need to reprimand, if you followed the thread for the most part posts were lighthearted. The irony from the beginning was posting photos and asking questions after outbidding the guys who likely had the answers. The answers were not straightforward but if you read closely they were answered.