Any Amazon collectors?

Tim Simmons · 3rd October 2014, 05:04 PM

Finally got the right kind of hand spun raw cotton. I had to unravel one ply from the yarn and then sort of re-spin the yarn between thumbs and fore fingers. The match is near perfect through 10x loop except the colour being newer. To give the whipping some resilience, I smothered mucilage glue all over. This would be much the same as the mastic originally used. Any Amazonian native would re-bind their club as and when needed.

Tim Simmons · 12th October 2014, 04:46 PM

This is where my latest example come from. My example is 4cm shorter.
http://americanindian.si.edu/searchc...id=Club&page=2

fireiceviper · 26th October 2014, 10:16 PM

I realy like it!

I was at a fair today (tribal art) and saw 4 war clubs from the amazon; 2 macana's and a long broad thatched one and a ceremonial one.

I was surprised nobody knew the other names for macana though (boutou, aputu or pootoo)

VANDOO · 11th December 2014, 02:33 AM

PICTURES #1 THRU #6 ARE OF TWO ITEMS A CEREMONIAL SPEAR/ CLUB USUALLY CARRIED BY THE CHIEF OR PRIEST OF THE TRIBE. AND A MORE TRADITIONAL FORM OF DOUBLE ENDED CEREMONIAL SPEAR. BOTH SPEARS AROUND 6 FEET LONG OF BLACK PALM WOOD ONE COATED IN VARNISH.
THE LARGEST NUMBER OF PEOPLE FROM THE TRIBE ARE AROUND ALDEA BRAZIL. THE TRIBE IS POLITICALLY ACTIVE TODAY TRYING TO KEEP THEIR LANDS AND TO PROTECT THE TRIBE. PICTURES #7 THRU #12 TRIBAL OR SPIRITUAL LEADERS OR TUWE OF THE TRIBE ONE HOLDING A SPEAR /CLUB SIMILAR TO MINE. TRIBAL GROUPS WITH COMMON POLE CLUBS DURING A CEREMONIAL DANCE.

VANDOO · 11th December 2014, 03:44 AM

THE HUNI KUIN ALSO KNOWN AS KAXINAWA TRIBE WERE DISCOVERED IN 1948 AND THERE ARE AROUND 2500 IN THE TRIBE TODAY AND THEY ARE TRYING TO KEEP THEIR CULTURE AND SPIRITUAL BELIEFS. MANY AMAZON TRIBES HAVE VANISHED OR LOST THEIR CULTURES IN THE AMAZON TUWE ALSO HELPS ORGANIZE AND PROTECT THEM THRU THE ASSOCIATION.
#1. PICTURE OF SPEAR HEAD. #2. MEETING OF ASSOCIATION OF INDIGENOUS PEOPLE WITH TUWE OF THE HUNI KUIN TRIBE AND DALI LAMA OF TIBET #3. CEREMONIAL DANCE AT VILLAGE.

VANDOO · 11th December 2014, 04:05 AM

FIRST CONTACT OCTOBER 1996 AROUND 200 MEMBERS IN TWO GROUPS TODAY. LIVE IN WESTERN AMAZON BASIN IN JAVARI VALLEY BRAZIL. THE TRIBE PREFERS TO BE CALLED DSLALA NOT THE OTHER FORIGNER NAMES FOR THEM. LARGE CLUBS AND BLOW PIPES ARE THEIR WEAPONS AND THERE HAVE BEEN VIOLENT ENCOUNTERS WITH OUTSIDERS. THE CLUB IS VERY LARGE AND HEAVY 55 INCHES LONG, THREE QUARTERS INCH DIAMETER AT BUTT END AND 2&1/2 IN. DIAMETER AT STRIKING END. THE STRIKING END IS ROUNDED IN SHAPE LIKE A BASEBALL BAT. THIS EXAMPLE WAS MADE WITH PRIMATIVE TOOLS IN THE JUNGLES COLLECTED IN THE EARLY DAYS OF CONTACT.

VANDOO · 27th March 2015, 12:31 AM

HERE IS A LINK TO A POST ON A NICE VARIATIATION OF A KAYAPO TRIBE, CLUB AND A COUPLE OF PICTURES FOR THE REFRENCE.http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=19693

11th December 2014, 02:33 AM	#4
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	Huni Kuin AKA. Kaxinawa tribe amazon Brazil & Peru PICTURES #1 THRU #6 ARE OF TWO ITEMS A CEREMONIAL SPEAR/ CLUB USUALLY CARRIED BY THE CHIEF OR PRIEST OF THE TRIBE. AND A MORE TRADITIONAL FORM OF DOUBLE ENDED CEREMONIAL SPEAR. BOTH SPEARS AROUND 6 FEET LONG OF BLACK PALM WOOD ONE COATED IN VARNISH. THE LARGEST NUMBER OF PEOPLE FROM THE TRIBE ARE AROUND ALDEA BRAZIL. THE TRIBE IS POLITICALLY ACTIVE TODAY TRYING TO KEEP THEIR LANDS AND TO PROTECT THE TRIBE. PICTURES #7 THRU #12 TRIBAL OR SPIRITUAL LEADERS OR TUWE OF THE TRIBE ONE HOLDING A SPEAR /CLUB SIMILAR TO MINE. TRIBAL GROUPS WITH COMMON POLE CLUBS DURING A CEREMONIAL DANCE. Attached Images

11th December 2014, 03:44 AM	#5
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	THE HUNI KUIN ALSO KNOWN AS KAXINAWA TRIBE WERE DISCOVERED IN 1948 AND THERE ARE AROUND 2500 IN THE TRIBE TODAY AND THEY ARE TRYING TO KEEP THEIR CULTURE AND SPIRITUAL BELIEFS. MANY AMAZON TRIBES HAVE VANISHED OR LOST THEIR CULTURES IN THE AMAZON TUWE ALSO HELPS ORGANIZE AND PROTECT THEM THRU THE ASSOCIATION. #1. PICTURE OF SPEAR HEAD. #2. MEETING OF ASSOCIATION OF INDIGENOUS PEOPLE WITH TUWE OF THE HUNI KUIN TRIBE AND DALI LAMA OF TIBET #3. CEREMONIAL DANCE AT VILLAGE. Attached Images

3rd October 2014, 05:04 PM	#1
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,875	Finally got the right kind of hand spun raw cotton. I had to unravel one ply from the yarn and then sort of re-spin the yarn between thumbs and fore fingers. The match is near perfect through 10x loop except the colour being newer. To give the whipping some resilience, I smothered mucilage glue all over. This would be much the same as the mastic originally used. Any Amazonian native would re-bind their club as and when needed. Attached Images Last edited by Tim Simmons; 3rd October 2014 at 05:16 PM.

12th October 2014, 04:46 PM	#2
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,875	This is where my latest example come from. My example is 4cm shorter. http://americanindian.si.edu/searchc...id=Club&page=2 Attached Images

26th October 2014, 10:16 PM	#3
fireiceviper Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Posts: 87	Nice! I realy like it! I was at a fair today (tribal art) and saw 4 war clubs from the amazon; 2 macana's and a long broad thatched one and a ceremonial one. I was surprised nobody knew the other names for macana though (boutou, aputu or pootoo)

11th December 2014, 04:05 AM	#6
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	DSLALA TRIBE A.K.A. CLUBBERS OR KORUBO FIRST CONTACT OCTOBER 1996 AROUND 200 MEMBERS IN TWO GROUPS TODAY. LIVE IN WESTERN AMAZON BASIN IN JAVARI VALLEY BRAZIL. THE TRIBE PREFERS TO BE CALLED DSLALA NOT THE OTHER FORIGNER NAMES FOR THEM. LARGE CLUBS AND BLOW PIPES ARE THEIR WEAPONS AND THERE HAVE BEEN VIOLENT ENCOUNTERS WITH OUTSIDERS. THE CLUB IS VERY LARGE AND HEAVY 55 INCHES LONG, THREE QUARTERS INCH DIAMETER AT BUTT END AND 2&1/2 IN. DIAMETER AT STRIKING END. THE STRIKING END IS ROUNDED IN SHAPE LIKE A BASEBALL BAT. THIS EXAMPLE WAS MADE WITH PRIMATIVE TOOLS IN THE JUNGLES COLLECTED IN THE EARLY DAYS OF CONTACT. Attached Images Last edited by VANDOO; 11th December 2014 at 04:36 AM.

27th March 2015, 12:31 AM	#7
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	HERE IS A LINK TO A POST ON A NICE VARIATIATION OF A KAYAPO TRIBE, CLUB AND A COUPLE OF PICTURES FOR THE REFRENCE.http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=19693 Attached Images