Kris? Sundang? Something else?

Sajen · 26th September 2014, 10:35 PM

Hello Dave,

it is a better example of a WWII or later Moro kris, note that the handle is attached in the "wrong" direction, typical for later Moro kris. The ganja don't will be separate, again a sign for a later piece. The file work is also not the finest you can find, again a sign for a kris of this time frame. Nice that all mother of pearl inlays at the handle still in place. The blade could be laminated IMHO. Nice kris from this time.

Regards,
Detlef

Ian · 27th September 2014, 12:00 AM

Hi Dave:

Agree with Detlef -- second half of 20th C piece with nice horse hoof style hilt with intact MOP and a nice rattan/wire wrap. The hilt has been positioned backwards, as Detlef noted, although that is probably a mistake by someone who replaced the hilt after the piece was made. This one does not appear to have had baca baca previously.

Nice pick up. I saw it for sale too--you got a good deal!

Is there a scabbard with this one?

Ian.

DaveA · 27th September 2014, 12:14 AM

Good comments, thanks.

No scabbard unfortunately.

This hilt-on-backwards thing is going to really bother me someday. Not now, but sometime I will ask for advice on how to remount it.

The inner portion is indeed rattan now that I look again closely.

Having many eyes on an item is really an extraordinary power and benefit of this forum! Many thanks to everyone for years of education.

Regards,

Dave

Battara · 27th September 2014, 04:30 AM

I agree with Detlef and Ian. All I can add is this is from the Sulu region.

DaveA · 27th September 2014, 04:53 PM

i have an idea, but it belongs in a new thread...

27th September 2014, 12:14 AM	#3
DaveA Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Wisconsin, USA Posts: 417	Thanks Good comments, thanks. No scabbard unfortunately. This hilt-on-backwards thing is going to really bother me someday. Not now, but sometime I will ask for advice on how to remount it. The inner portion is indeed rattan now that I look again closely. Having many eyes on an item is really an extraordinary power and benefit of this forum! Many thanks to everyone for years of education. Regards, Dave

27th September 2014, 04:53 PM	#5
DaveA Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Wisconsin, USA Posts: 417	Backwards hilt: Form follows function. i have an idea, but it belongs in a new thread...

26th September 2014, 10:35 PM	#1
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,274	Hello Dave, it is a better example of a WWII or later Moro kris, note that the handle is attached in the "wrong" direction, typical for later Moro kris. The ganja don't will be separate, again a sign for a later piece. The file work is also not the finest you can find, again a sign for a kris of this time frame. Nice that all mother of pearl inlays at the handle still in place. The blade could be laminated IMHO. Nice kris from this time. Regards, Detlef

27th September 2014, 12:00 AM	#2
Ian Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Aussie Bush Posts: 4,453	Hi Dave: Agree with Detlef -- second half of 20th C piece with nice horse hoof style hilt with intact MOP and a nice rattan/wire wrap. The hilt has been positioned backwards, as Detlef noted, although that is probably a mistake by someone who replaced the hilt after the piece was made. This one does not appear to have had baca baca previously. Nice pick up. I saw it for sale too--you got a good deal! Is there a scabbard with this one? Ian.

27th September 2014, 04:30 AM	#4
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,310	I agree with Detlef and Ian. All I can add is this is from the Sulu region.