keris sajen majapahit marks

[Pusaka]

Originally Posted by David

Forgive me, i was not aware that perhaps one of the greatest secrets of the ancient keris making world had been shared with you. I, for one, would certainly not suggest that you ever break such a sacred vow.

Haha...no not just me, I would say there are a number of people in Indonesia that know this, none outside the Silat circle and maybe traditional empu tho

who knows maybe another on here, might come forward, that would be shocking wouldn't it

[Rick]

Right:
I'd tell you but then I'd have to kill you .

[Rick]

I cannot count the number of times since this subforum was founded that people have passed through claiming the knowledge that you claim, my friend .
If it is something that cannot be shared then it is something we cannot discuss; can we ?

So, secret knowledge aside; can we please move on .

[Pusaka]

Originally Posted by Rick

I cannot count the number of times since this subforum was founded that people have passed through claiming the knowledge that you claim, my friend .
If it is something that cannot be shared then it is something we cannot discuss; can we ?

So, secret knowledge aside; can we please move on .

Surly you have heard of the Freemasons right, well in silat they have secrets too simple as that Ask a Freemason to show you the handshake or the lost word...he wont do it!

Anyway onwards and upwards, my purpose of making this thread is to establish if these keris markings follow numeric patterns, old vs newer, odd/even, 3,5,7,9 who knows maybe even numbers too.

[A. G. Maisey]

Comment withdrawn.

[Rick]

Originally Posted by Pusaka

Anyway onwards and upwards, my purpose of making this thread is to establish if these keris markings follow numeric patterns, old vs newer, odd/even, 3,5,7,9 who knows maybe even numbers too.

Absolutely, onward and upward .

[Pusaka]

The supposed 250 year old 32 paged (interesting number) keris manuscript depicts the Taming sari to have been a keris Picit. Have not read much about the legends surrounding this keris to know if it is consistently depicted as such.
The manuscript goes into detail about such markings but from a Sufi perspective or at least a Sufi interpretation of such markings.

[David]

Originally Posted by Pusaka

The supposed 250 year old 32 paged (interesting number) keris manuscript depicts the Taming sari to have been a keris Picit. Have not read much about the legends surrounding this keris to know if it is consistently depicted as such.
The manuscript goes into detail about such markings but from a Sufi perspective or at least a Sufi interpretation of such markings.

Well, onward perhaps, but i'm not convinced about upwards. Taming Sari is a keris steeped in legend so if the goal of your enquiry is to find out facts about keris picit this might not be the best path for you.
BTW, Taming Sari is supposedly part of the Perak royal regalia and that keris at least is not a keris picit. It would probably not be consistent to legend for Taming Sari to be keris picit since the legends tend to speak of it as a martial weapon, not a talismanic one. I have never seen a keris picit that was meant for or would be suitable for martial activity. They are purely talismanic blades.

[David]

Originally Posted by Pusaka

Anyway onwards and upwards, my purpose of making this thread is to establish if these keris markings follow numeric patterns, old vs newer, odd/even, 3,5,7,9 who knows maybe even numbers too.

I am afraid i do not understand the purpose of your last link. It would also be helpful if you stuck to links in English unless you are willing to provide a translation for them. None of this seems to have anything to do with your self-proclaimed purpose for this thread. What exactly are we talking about anyway? What is it that you would like to find out here?

[Gavin Nugent]

Another post from the archives...

Does anyone know is a complete English translation of this document has been made?

[David]

Originally Posted by Gavin Nugent

Another post from the archives...

Does anyone know is a complete English translation of this document has been made?

I'm not sure which document you are referring to, the one shown in post #16 or what Pusaka linked to in post #23.
And i guess these aren't so much documents as diagrams. The link in #23 says the diagram writing is in Siamese so i presume they mean Thai. The diagram in #16 may well be Thai as well. Not sure if we have anyone on board here who is fluent in Thai.