THE OLDEST KNOWN YATAGHAN!!!!

Sancar · 12th July 2014, 11:22 AM

You are most welcome, Martin.

Emanuel · 19th July 2014, 12:54 AM

Hello,

Here is yet another gorgeous yataghan, possibly from the same workshop of Ahmed Tekelu. It's actually featured in the Furusiyya Foundation's collection.
Dated 1500-1515. It exhibits the same phoenix and dragon in foliage theme.
Attached the plates 56-57 from "The Arts of the Muslim Knight"

Is it just me or does the blade look like wootz?

The text refers to a 9th century Tang painting of a Turkish chieftain with "a long yataghan-like knife", shown in "Palace Museum" Taiwan, Ettinghausen 1963. has anyone run accros this painting?

Emanuel

Emanuel · 19th July 2014, 12:56 AM

And the details...

Sancar · 19th July 2014, 10:47 PM

This is the first time I ever saw this yatağan! Very interesting. Thank you very much Emanuel!

Emanuel · 28th July 2014, 05:47 PM

Hello everyone,

Here is another yataghan, very similar to those posted above, but lacking the extensive decoration. It does appear to have some of the same foliage decoration, and it also seems to have a fuller at the spine. Note the bolster. Overall reminiscent of khukri blades, but more elongated and lacking the kaudi.

This piece was photographed by photographer Charles Clifford sometime in the 1860s from a collection supposedly in Madrid.

Also very similar is the following likely Indian-made sossoun-pata, that is a bit more khukri-like: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showpo...8&postcount=25

Thoughts?

Emanuel

spiral · 28th July 2014, 10:28 PM

That's fascinating Emmanuel! Thank you!

Ill dig out some photos of some Nepali pieces that look very related in style.

Spiral

spiral · 29th July 2014, 06:04 PM

A couple from Kathmandu National museum.

This one is copyright JP originally marked not to be reused. In case it was used in his book.. From Victoria & Albert.London

While different there seems a certain echo amongst them?

spiral

19th July 2014, 12:54 AM	#2
Emanuel Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,242	And another beauty Hello, Here is yet another gorgeous yataghan, possibly from the same workshop of Ahmed Tekelu. It's actually featured in the Furusiyya Foundation's collection. Dated 1500-1515. It exhibits the same phoenix and dragon in foliage theme. Attached the plates 56-57 from "The Arts of the Muslim Knight" Is it just me or does the blade look like wootz? The text refers to a 9th century Tang painting of a Turkish chieftain with "a long yataghan-like knife", shown in "Palace Museum" Taiwan, Ettinghausen 1963. has anyone run accros this painting? Emanuel Attached Images

19th July 2014, 12:56 AM	#3
Emanuel Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,242	And the details... Attached Images

28th July 2014, 05:47 PM	#5
Emanuel Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,242	Hello everyone, Here is another yataghan, very similar to those posted above, but lacking the extensive decoration. It does appear to have some of the same foliage decoration, and it also seems to have a fuller at the spine. Note the bolster. Overall reminiscent of khukri blades, but more elongated and lacking the kaudi. This piece was photographed by photographer Charles Clifford sometime in the 1860s from a collection supposedly in Madrid. Also very similar is the following likely Indian-made sossoun-pata, that is a bit more khukri-like: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showpo...8&postcount=25 Thoughts? Emanuel Attached Images Last edited by Emanuel; 28th July 2014 at 07:05 PM.

12th July 2014, 11:22 AM	#1
Sancar Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 79	You are most welcome, Martin.

19th July 2014, 10:47 PM	#4
Sancar Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 79	This is the first time I ever saw this yatağan! Very interesting. Thank you very much Emanuel!

28th July 2014, 10:28 PM	#6
spiral Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,712	That's fascinating Emmanuel! Thank you! Ill dig out some photos of some Nepali pieces that look very related in style. Spiral

29th July 2014, 06:04 PM	#7
spiral Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,712	A couple from Kathmandu National museum. This one is copyright JP originally marked not to be reused. In case it was used in his book.. From Victoria & Albert.London While different there seems a certain echo amongst them? spiral