Dagger

RhysMichael · 20th November 2005, 11:17 PM

I wonder if this started its life as a spear, just a thought

VANDOO · 20th November 2005, 11:52 PM

IT DOES APPEAR TO HAVE A BUILT IN BOLSTER LIKE SPEAR HEADS BUT IT LOOKS FLAT RATHER THAN ROUND WHICH WOULD BE UNUSUAL FOR A SPEAR BLADE. THE HANDLE IS ALSO SORT OF STRANGE WITH THE GUARD AND POORLY CARVED MONSTER HEAD POMMEL. IT DOES LOOK LIKE A LOT MORE WORK WENT INTO MAKEING THE BLADE THAN THE FITTINGS SO THE BLADE IS PROBABLY OLDER AND MOST LIKELY A SPEAR HEAD. A INTERESTING ITEM

Robert · 21st November 2005, 12:09 AM

Vandoo and RhysMichael,
I don't really think this blade was ever a spear. The blade is not straight, it actually curves downward as it goes toward the point, though it is hard to see this in these pictures. I do believe like you that it has been rehilted at some point in time.

Robert

Mark · 21st November 2005, 12:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robert Coleman

Vandoo and RhysMichael,
I don't really think this blade was ever a spear. The blade is not straight, it actually curves downward as it goes toward the point, though it is hard to see this in these pictures. I do believe like you that it has been rehilted at some point in time.

Robert

I was wondering about the curve. And are the two "halves" of the blade, on either side of the spine, of different widths or is that just the camera angle? Perhaps it was originally made as a dagger with a European cruciform mounting?

Robert · 21st November 2005, 01:14 AM

Mark,
The medial ridge is centered on the blade. If it was rehilted (like I think it could have been) I think the original hilt might possably have been a round horn grip with steel or brass ferrells and guard.

Lew · 21st November 2005, 07:15 AM

Hi Robert

I think your blade started out as a dagger I have seen this style on the ricasso before on an old dagger with a twin demon head hilt. Your piece seems to have been rehilted the wood and scabbard are too crude for such a fine quality blade. Still a very nice find!

Lew

Robert · 21st November 2005, 08:47 AM

Hi Lew,
You wouldn't happen to have a picture of the dagger that you were referring to would you?

Robert

20th November 2005, 11:17 PM	#1
RhysMichael Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Virginia Posts: 520	I wonder if this started its life as a spear, just a thought

20th November 2005, 11:52 PM	#2
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	IT DOES APPEAR TO HAVE A BUILT IN BOLSTER LIKE SPEAR HEADS BUT IT LOOKS FLAT RATHER THAN ROUND WHICH WOULD BE UNUSUAL FOR A SPEAR BLADE. THE HANDLE IS ALSO SORT OF STRANGE WITH THE GUARD AND POORLY CARVED MONSTER HEAD POMMEL. IT DOES LOOK LIKE A LOT MORE WORK WENT INTO MAKEING THE BLADE THAN THE FITTINGS SO THE BLADE IS PROBABLY OLDER AND MOST LIKELY A SPEAR HEAD. A INTERESTING ITEM

21st November 2005, 12:09 AM	#3
Robert EAAF Staff Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Centerville, Kansas Posts: 2,196	Vandoo and RhysMichael, I don't really think this blade was ever a spear. The blade is not straight, it actually curves downward as it goes toward the point, though it is hard to see this in these pictures. I do believe like you that it has been rehilted at some point in time. Robert

21st November 2005, 01:14 AM	#5
Robert EAAF Staff Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Centerville, Kansas Posts: 2,196	Mark, The medial ridge is centered on the blade. If it was rehilted (like I think it could have been) I think the original hilt might possably have been a round horn grip with steel or brass ferrells and guard.

21st November 2005, 07:15 AM	#6
Lew (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: East Coast USA Posts: 3,191	Hi Robert I think your blade started out as a dagger I have seen this style on the ricasso before on an old dagger with a twin demon head hilt. Your piece seems to have been rehilted the wood and scabbard are too crude for such a fine quality blade. Still a very nice find! Lew

21st November 2005, 08:47 AM	#7
Robert EAAF Staff Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Centerville, Kansas Posts: 2,196	Hi Lew, You wouldn't happen to have a picture of the dagger that you were referring to would you? Robert