Muzzleloader Multi-Tool for Comment

dana_w · 25th June 2014, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Fernando K

Dana:
Of course, some parts are easily recognized, but the oil bottle is not evident, the screwdriver fireplaces (nipple wrench) and the version "Y", which serves to "I" (turnscrew NP) (?)

Fernando K

The oil bottle is part of the vertical cylinder in the version "Y" drawing. The oil applier tip and cap is screwed in at the top. A pointed piercer with a screw for extracting jammed bullets unscrews from the bottom of the same cylinder. Like the "worm" it is designed to be attached to a ramming rod. The hole which the piercer / screw comes from can also be used as a nipple wrench.

When I have a chance I will make mark up some photos to make things clearer.

fernando · 26th June 2014, 02:14 PM

Forumite Adrian Roads wrote an excelent & comprehensive paper on the several tool patterns that were issued.
I hope he doesn't mind me uploading here a coupple pages of the said article

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dana_w · 26th June 2014, 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fernando

Forumite Adrian Roads wrote an excelent & comprehensive paper on the several tool patterns that were issued.
I hope he doesn't mind me uploading here a coupple pages of the said article

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That a GREAT contribution Fernando! Thanks so much.

adrian · 1st July 2014, 01:47 PM

Thanks Fernando I don't mind at all that you have posted this extract & would have replied myself if I had seen this thread sooner.
Dana, its an Enfield rifle tool, as has been correctly noted by several members, in this case one that was issued to Sergeants, these had a few "extras" that the Privates implements did not have, such as a ball drawer & mainspring clamp. There are several patterns of tool that it could be (No. 4, 5 or 7), as these have only slight differences. One clue will be as to whether or not it has a small screwdriver tip beneath the detachable worm?
Regards, Adrian

dana_w · 1st July 2014, 04:08 PM

Hello Adrian, it is a pleasure to meet you.

The Sergeants Tool in my post doesn't have have a small screwdriver tip beneath the detachable worm. Does that make it a 4 or 5?

adrian · 2nd July 2014, 12:10 AM

Hi Dana that would make it a pattern #4.
Pattern #3 is also the same as #4 except the arms & stem are longer, I don't think it is a #3, they are fairly uncommon, but if you check yours against the measurements in that article extract you will then know for certain. Regards, Adrian.

dana_w · 2nd July 2014, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by adrian

Hi Dana that would make it a pattern #4.
Pattern #3 is also the same as #4 except the arms & stem are longer, I don't think it is a #3, they are fairly uncommon, but if you check yours against the measurements in that article extract you will then know for certain. Regards, Adrian.

Without the worm, the cross arm measures 4 1/16"

26th June 2014, 02:14 PM	#2
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	Forumite Adrian Roads wrote an excelent & comprehensive paper on the several tool patterns that were issued. I hope he doesn't mind me uploading here a coupple pages of the said article . Attached Images

1st July 2014, 01:47 PM	#4
adrian Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 135	Thanks Fernando I don't mind at all that you have posted this extract & would have replied myself if I had seen this thread sooner. Dana, its an Enfield rifle tool, as has been correctly noted by several members, in this case one that was issued to Sergeants, these had a few "extras" that the Privates implements did not have, such as a ball drawer & mainspring clamp. There are several patterns of tool that it could be (No. 4, 5 or 7), as these have only slight differences. One clue will be as to whether or not it has a small screwdriver tip beneath the detachable worm? Regards, Adrian

1st July 2014, 04:08 PM	#5
dana_w Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Southeast Florida, USA Posts: 437	Hello Adrian, it is a pleasure to meet you. The Sergeants Tool in my post doesn't have have a small screwdriver tip beneath the detachable worm. Does that make it a 4 or 5?

2nd July 2014, 12:10 AM	#6
adrian Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 135	Hi Dana that would make it a pattern #4. Pattern #3 is also the same as #4 except the arms & stem are longer, I don't think it is a #3, they are fairly uncommon, but if you check yours against the measurements in that article extract you will then know for certain. Regards, Adrian.