Yataghan inscription translation please!

ALEX · 10th March 2014, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by rand

...If you can identify Ottoman ruler with this Tugra the time of use can be narrowed....

A general question - are "tugras" like this on similar yataghans actually of the ruling Sultan? The silver proof marks were, but the coftgaried or inlaid inscriptions on the blades were in my opinion just stylized Tugras with owner or maker names, not the actual tugras of Sultan.

eftihis · 10th March 2014, 06:31 PM

Well, this high quality yataghan has the tugra of Mohamed Ali, the ruler of Egypt.

rand · 10th March 2014, 09:17 PM

Great tugra example on a yataghan Eftihis. We can safely assume the Eftihis' yataghan had a period of use starting sometime between 1769-1849, the reign of Muhammad Ali Pasha.

rand

Zifir · 24th March 2014, 06:57 PM

Hi Efhitis,

Name of the maker, owner and date are as follows:

Amel-i Osman Beşe Cemaat 3 Sahib İbrahim Beşe Sene 1111

Work of Osman Beşe of 3rd Janissary Cemaat, Owner İbrahim Beşe, Year 1699-1700

I could not figure out the second inscription completely, even though I am sure it is Turkish. I will let you know if I make any breakthrough

eftihis · 25th March 2014, 07:25 AM

Thank you very much Zifir, great as always!

10th March 2014, 06:31 PM	#2
eftihis Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Chania Crete Greece Posts: 511	Well, this high quality yataghan has the tugra of Mohamed Ali, the ruler of Egypt. Attached Images

10th March 2014, 09:17 PM	#3
rand Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 539	Tugra example Great tugra example on a yataghan Eftihis. We can safely assume the Eftihis' yataghan had a period of use starting sometime between 1769-1849, the reign of Muhammad Ali Pasha. rand

24th March 2014, 06:57 PM	#4
Zifir Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Istanbul Posts: 228	Hi Efhitis, Name of the maker, owner and date are as follows: Amel-i Osman Beşe Cemaat 3 Sahib İbrahim Beşe Sene 1111 Work of Osman Beşe of 3rd Janissary Cemaat, Owner İbrahim Beşe, Year 1699-1700 I could not figure out the second inscription completely, even though I am sure it is Turkish. I will let you know if I make any breakthrough

25th March 2014, 07:25 AM	#5
eftihis Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Chania Crete Greece Posts: 511	Thank you very much Zifir, great as always!