a seventeenth century matchlock ?

cornelistromp · 25th February 2014, 03:39 PM

Of course this later inlaid paddle butt has nothing to do with the musket in Item # 1 nor with the style of inlay of this musket.

I believe the musket of post 1 is inlaid around 1630-1640 and probably used in Holland in the second quarter of the 17thC.
it might have been an Original plain military musket (maybe they all were) but the decoration/inlay is not much later than the production of it.

See a painting by Frans Hals, the skinny company ( de magere companie) from 1633 with the same style of decoration at the musket.

and the decoration at the muskets on the painting ; platoon of the cluveniers civic quard, Harlem 1594.

Rembrandts nightwatch and others.

best,
Jasper

Raf · 25th February 2014, 05:54 PM

regarding a Dutch connection are we not missing the obvious ? Tulipomania 1637...

cornelistromp · 25th February 2014, 06:55 PM

Hi RAF,

well , the time span is exactly right between 1634-1637 there was a tulip buying anger with ridiculously high prices that were paid for it in the Netherlands.

I have also dated the musket with Dutch decoration in previous posts between 1630-1640.

some facts about the Tulp(en)manie;
In January 1637 tulip bulbs were sold for more than ten times the annual salary of a skilled craftsman, and they were about as much worth as an Amsterdam canal house. this was of course absolutely ridiculous, but did happen.

this situation in 1637 was quite similar to the banking crisis we just had/have now, a huge bubble that collapses.

The inlay on muskets that were used in Netherlands had often symbolism in the images.
see for example the oranges on musket from post 2, these represent the royal house of Orange (oranje Nassau) from the 16th century until now.
further oranges were like tulips a very expensive status product in the netherlands, William of Orange (WIII) every winter had his orange trees by his gardeners put inside where the temperature was right.

best,
Jasper

cornelistromp · 26th February 2014, 04:19 PM

another dutch musket, essentially another dutch style decorated version of the northern European military muskets of the 16th - 17th century.
the barrel is inscribed with the Dutch phrase; EENDRACH MAK MACH

in latin "concordia res parvae crescunt" unity makes strength in the 16thC Dutch Republic took over the phrase as its motto and it appeared on several of its coins and coats of arms.

and another in the rijksmuseum.

best,
jasper

Raf · 2nd March 2014, 12:56 PM

And finally , a matchlock dated 1629 , Musee de l' Armee , Paris , which I think shows that this decoration can be consistent with this style of butt.

25th February 2014, 03:39 PM	#1
cornelistromp Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 1,063	Of course this later inlaid paddle butt has nothing to do with the musket in Item # 1 nor with the style of inlay of this musket. I believe the musket of post 1 is inlaid around 1630-1640 and probably used in Holland in the second quarter of the 17thC. it might have been an Original plain military musket (maybe they all were) but the decoration/inlay is not much later than the production of it. See a painting by Frans Hals, the skinny company ( de magere companie) from 1633 with the same style of decoration at the musket. and the decoration at the muskets on the painting ; platoon of the cluveniers civic quard, Harlem 1594. Rembrandts nightwatch and others. best, Jasper Attached Images Last edited by cornelistromp; 25th February 2014 at 04:40 PM.

25th February 2014, 05:54 PM	#2
Raf Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 252	regarding a Dutch connection are we not missing the obvious ? Tulipomania 1637... Attached Images

25th February 2014, 06:55 PM	#3
cornelistromp Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 1,063	Hi RAF, well , the time span is exactly right between 1634-1637 there was a tulip buying anger with ridiculously high prices that were paid for it in the Netherlands. I have also dated the musket with Dutch decoration in previous posts between 1630-1640. some facts about the Tulp(en)manie; In January 1637 tulip bulbs were sold for more than ten times the annual salary of a skilled craftsman, and they were about as much worth as an Amsterdam canal house. this was of course absolutely ridiculous, but did happen. this situation in 1637 was quite similar to the banking crisis we just had/have now, a huge bubble that collapses. The inlay on muskets that were used in Netherlands had often symbolism in the images. see for example the oranges on musket from post 2, these represent the royal house of Orange (oranje Nassau) from the 16th century until now. further oranges were like tulips a very expensive status product in the netherlands, William of Orange (WIII) every winter had his orange trees by his gardeners put inside where the temperature was right. best, Jasper Attached Images Last edited by cornelistromp; 26th February 2014 at 09:09 AM.

26th February 2014, 04:19 PM	#4
cornelistromp Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 1,063	another dutch musket, essentially another dutch style decorated version of the northern European military muskets of the 16th - 17th century. the barrel is inscribed with the Dutch phrase; EENDRACH MAK MACH in latin "concordia res parvae crescunt" unity makes strength in the 16thC Dutch Republic took over the phrase as its motto and it appeared on several of its coins and coats of arms. and another in the rijksmuseum. best, jasper Attached Images Last edited by cornelistromp; 26th February 2014 at 04:38 PM.

2nd March 2014, 12:56 PM	#5
Raf Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 252	And finally , a matchlock dated 1629 , Musee de l' Armee , Paris , which I think shows that this decoration can be consistent with this style of butt. Attached Images Last edited by Raf; 2nd March 2014 at 01:11 PM.