Dagger - Taureg?

Ibrahiim al Balooshi · 7th January 2014, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Martin Lubojacky

Hi blue lander,
Here you can also find some styles of pommels: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=16478, and there are another interesting threads.
Re. a.m. link, your sheath and blade is similar to the dagger, which allegedly came from Agadez area (but I think it could be commonly used in central part of the territoty - maybe Niger, south Algeria, western third of Libya ?).
I have strange feeling, that, besides the classical "old styles" handles and pommels, the "art of hanndles" of Tuareg daggers is alive even currently and the fashioners are relatively creative
(Ibrahiim, the X shaped handle is not Tuareg, but Hadendoa, Habab)
Regards,
Martin

Salaams Martin Quite right. Noted.
Regards,
Ibrahiim al Balooshi.

blue lander · 7th January 2014, 01:19 PM

Wow, I didn't realize there was so much variety in tuarag daggers. It seems like a very much alive tradition.

regihis · 11th January 2014, 03:41 AM

Tuareg tourist dagger

kronckew · 11th January 2014, 07:55 AM

there was a video on the BBC news this past week about tuareg and the drying of the desert affecting their grazing and forcing them to move. apparently gadaffi had provided a lot of aid to them and they supported him during the revolution and many of them were killed, and they are having hard times.

anyway, they showed a gathering of tuareg, and i noticed many were wearing taquobas. on chap was actually wearing three apparently brand new ones - i assume he was wandering thru the crowd trying to sell them.

Martin Lubojacky · 11th January 2014, 11:54 AM

Hi regihis,
Please, could you explain why do you think it is "tourist" dagger ? (I think we can call it more or less contemporary, but not tourist. Some tourist pieces are in the link mentioned in previous post.)
Martin

blue lander · 11th January 2014, 03:38 PM

I did wonder if it was a tourist piece... neither the blade or handle look very functional. Plus there seems to be a lot of identically decorated Takouba and dagger sheaths/scabbards. But it looks very weather worn so I assumed it was authentic but modern. Maybe they're making these for tourists and then carrying them around to age them?

blue lander · 17th January 2014, 11:11 PM

It finally arrived today. It looks like there used to be another piece going around the end of the hilt. The blade's definitely of the scrap metal variety, but it's pretty sharp and there's a pattern etched around the edges. The tip looks broken off and the area around the tip is bent. The sheath looks just like my takouba sheath. The green bits behind that metal band are just a green color piece of fabric. I assume there was a metal end piece to it at some point.There's odd dots on the brass belt ring. Considering the amount of wear and tear on the sheath I'd be suprised to hear it's a tourist dagger. Besides the usual signs of wear there's a couple cuts on the leather. Unless it was aged intentionally.

17th January 2014, 11:11 PM	#7
blue lander Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 456	It finally arrived today. It looks like there used to be another piece going around the end of the hilt. The blade's definitely of the scrap metal variety, but it's pretty sharp and there's a pattern etched around the edges. The tip looks broken off and the area around the tip is bent. The sheath looks just like my takouba sheath. The green bits behind that metal band are just a green color piece of fabric. I assume there was a metal end piece to it at some point.There's odd dots on the brass belt ring. Considering the amount of wear and tear on the sheath I'd be suprised to hear it's a tourist dagger. Besides the usual signs of wear there's a couple cuts on the leather. Unless it was aged intentionally. Attached Images

7th January 2014, 01:19 PM	#2
blue lander Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 456	Wow, I didn't realize there was so much variety in tuarag daggers. It seems like a very much alive tradition.

11th January 2014, 03:41 AM	#3
regihis Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 39	Tuareg tourist dagger

11th January 2014, 07:55 AM	#4
kronckew Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Room 101, Glos. UK Posts: 4,224	there was a video on the BBC news this past week about tuareg and the drying of the desert affecting their grazing and forcing them to move. apparently gadaffi had provided a lot of aid to them and they supported him during the revolution and many of them were killed, and they are having hard times. anyway, they showed a gathering of tuareg, and i noticed many were wearing taquobas. on chap was actually wearing three apparently brand new ones - i assume he was wandering thru the crowd trying to sell them.

11th January 2014, 11:54 AM	#5
Martin Lubojacky Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Czech Republic Posts: 843	Hi regihis, Please, could you explain why do you think it is "tourist" dagger ? (I think we can call it more or less contemporary, but not tourist. Some tourist pieces are in the link mentioned in previous post.) Martin

11th January 2014, 03:38 PM	#6
blue lander Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 456	I did wonder if it was a tourist piece... neither the blade or handle look very functional. Plus there seems to be a lot of identically decorated Takouba and dagger sheaths/scabbards. But it looks very weather worn so I assumed it was authentic but modern. Maybe they're making these for tourists and then carrying them around to age them?