Long Arnaut Rasak gun

TVV · 30th December 2013, 08:29 PM

Very nice rifle, Armatolos. I believe we can clearly see a date. Assuming that the last digit 0 is not written, then a dating of 1220 will correspond to a date of 1807-1808. I actually think the lock is consistent with the rifle. Shishane and boyliya locks tend to be a bit different, while the lock on this rasak is similar to locks on Albanian pistols and long guns. I know that a lot of the preserved museum examples have French style locks, but the original locks must have been Balkan miquelet ones, with the French locks supplanting those when imports increased during the 19th century.

Regards,
Teodor

Ibrahiim al Balooshi · 31st December 2013, 05:39 PM

Salaams All Note to Library...More of the Balkan stuff...and some Ottoman Guns.
In addition see https://archive.org/stream/balkansal...e/n28/mode/2up which is a free book by William Milligan Sloan from the 1914 edition. All readable and downloadable for nothing.
Regards,
Ibrahiim al Balooshi.

Armatolos · 2nd January 2014, 12:34 PM

I am putting up some more details.

Armatolos · 21st January 2014, 11:29 PM

The mystery is over!
It reads Mā shāʼ Allāh ( ﻣﺎ ﺷﺎﺀ ﺍﻟﻠﻪ )
but it inscribed by an illiterate artist and thus it is written backwards!!
The same applies for the inscribed date on the other side!

31st December 2013, 05:39 PM	#2
Ibrahiim al Balooshi Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Buraimi Oman, on the border with the UAE Posts: 4,408	Salaams All Note to Library...More of the Balkan stuff...and some Ottoman Guns. In addition see https://archive.org/stream/balkansal...e/n28/mode/2up which is a free book by William Milligan Sloan from the 1914 edition. All readable and downloadable for nothing. Regards, Ibrahiim al Balooshi. Attached Images Last edited by Ibrahiim al Balooshi; 31st December 2013 at 05:58 PM.

2nd January 2014, 12:34 PM	#3
Armatolos Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Athens Posts: 14	new photos added I am putting up some more details. Attached Images

30th December 2013, 08:29 PM	#1
TVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Bay Area Posts: 1,725	Very nice rifle, Armatolos. I believe we can clearly see a date. Assuming that the last digit 0 is not written, then a dating of 1220 will correspond to a date of 1807-1808. I actually think the lock is consistent with the rifle. Shishane and boyliya locks tend to be a bit different, while the lock on this rasak is similar to locks on Albanian pistols and long guns. I know that a lot of the preserved museum examples have French style locks, but the original locks must have been Balkan miquelet ones, with the French locks supplanting those when imports increased during the 19th century. Regards, Teodor

21st January 2014, 11:29 PM	#4
Armatolos Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Athens Posts: 14	The mystery is over! It reads Mā shāʼ Allāh ( ﻣﺎ ﺷﺎﺀ ﺍﻟﻠﻪ ) but it inscribed by an illiterate artist and thus it is written backwards!! The same applies for the inscribed date on the other side!