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Old 12th November 2013, 06:54 PM   #1
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Salaams! Thank you very much for your reply. I found it quite informative. It's quite clear that the swords in this thread are not in my specialization. Being new to this site and discussion forum, I would like to participate in threads dealing with medieval swords and armor dating from 550 to 1300 CE. Though I must admit that I'm quite knowledgeable in arms and armor dating to other periods, I believe that one should stick to his own specialization.

I'm very indebted to your reply, sir. Thank you very much, once again.

Salaams ... What I like about this forum is that the ink is free....so lets hear your ideas on the host of arms between the mid 6th and 14th Century.
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Old 12th November 2013, 08:11 PM   #2
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Salaams!

Thank you very much for your generous and encouraging reply. Any information you wish to know about the swords and armor in the period between 550 to 1300 CE shall have my concern and my answers.

BTW, this is for true: Would you like to see the original Dhu'l-Faqar and its present whereabouts? Well, I believe I made its identification back in 2000-2001. There are other famous swords belonging to Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) and his Companions (R.A.) that I was able to identify and study thoroughly.

If you wish me to speak about that, feel free and please start a new thread regarding that, and I'll be more than willing to write all the information that you want in that regards.

Thanks a lot in advance, sir.
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Old 13th November 2013, 02:14 PM   #3
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Salaams!

Thank you very much for your generous and encouraging reply. Any information you wish to know about the swords and armor in the period between 550 to 1300 CE shall have my concern and my answers.

BTW, this is for true: Would you like to see the original Dhu'l-Faqar and its present whereabouts? Well, I believe I made its identification back in 2000-2001. There are other famous swords belonging to Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) and his Companions (R.A.) that I was able to identify and study thoroughly.

If you wish me to speak about that, feel free and please start a new thread regarding that, and I'll be more than willing to write all the information that you want in that regards.

Thanks a lot in advance, sir.
Salaams ... Go to the top of the list and see THREAD STARTER... hit the button and you can start your new thread.
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Old 13th November 2013, 05:49 PM   #4
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I have found your post fascinating and I will ask your forgiveness in advance for focusing on a trivial aspect ;that of a hole drilled in the tip of one of the swords in your pictures.
I have, with some frequency found holes drilled into tulwars and tuareg swords, usually in the middle.I have attributed this to imbeciles who couldn't figure any other way to hang a sword from a wall. I know this to be true in one case, when a man showed me his U.S. naval cutlass and he confessed upon questioning that he was in fact the culprit who drilled the sword.
Is there any other explanation for the holes in the swords, especially those of Middle Eastern or African origin ?
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Old 13th November 2013, 06:24 PM   #5
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Thanks a lot, Ibrahim! I'll do just that!
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Old 13th November 2013, 07:01 PM   #6
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Your possibly right David!

See...

linky!

or when I pointed the same out many years ago...

another linky!
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Old 13th November 2013, 10:45 PM   #7
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Thanks for the links; I think the "imbecile theory," wins ! Maybe my next post will be how disheartening it is to see the prize sword you won, sticking out of the poorly packed box, with the tip bent or broken !
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Old 14th November 2013, 08:10 AM   #8
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Thanks for the links; I think the "imbecile theory," wins ! Maybe my next post will be how disheartening it is to see the prize sword you won, sticking out of the poorly packed box, with the tip bent or broken !
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so far Ive been lucky, had a kukri arrive hanging out of the package held by an angry postman but no damage!

I just directly pointed out I wasn't the idiot who packed it & he calmed down.

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Old 14th November 2013, 02:38 PM   #9
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I have found your post fascinating and I will ask your forgiveness in advance for focusing on a trivial aspect ;that of a hole drilled in the tip of one of the swords in your pictures.
I have, with some frequency found holes drilled into tulwars and tuareg swords, usually in the middle.I have attributed this to imbeciles who couldn't figure any other way to hang a sword from a wall. I know this to be true in one case, when a man showed me his U.S. naval cutlass and he confessed upon questioning that he was in fact the culprit who drilled the sword.
Is there any other explanation for the holes in the swords, especially those of Middle Eastern or African origin ?
Regards,
David

Salaams drac2k ~ Whilst I cannot speak for the hole you describe in the US Naval Cutlass .. Holes in " Middle Eastern, African, Persian and Indian" blades are interesting since they are normally filled with copper or brass ( occasionally gold) however, the precise reason for this is unclear. Other filled dots appear nearer the hilt and can be configured usually one or three. They may be talismanic or define a good blade or brave owner? Certainly one and three are good talismans. Swords at the Topkapi exhibit these dots.. and I recently placed a dotted Khanjar blade with two triple dots at the throat on http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...8&page=4&pp=30
Anyway, it is always nice to discover a blade with dots, though, perhaps the blade makers simply enhanced the blades worth by adding these.

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Old 14th November 2013, 05:25 PM   #10
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Yup.
There are several Topkapi sword, both "sacred" and just Mamluk with brass/golled plugges holes. In their case, I hold British publicans innocent:-)

And then, of course, the Chinese Jians with 7 plugged holes.
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