Non Moro ,Mandaya? sword

Mark · 26th October 2005, 03:30 PM

I have an almost identical one that I have been trying to identify for years. It was my first ethnographic sword purchase, in fact, and the subject of my first-ever post on the EEWRS.

I don't have pictures, but I'll take some and post.

Justin · 29th October 2005, 05:51 PM

Sorry I havent posted in awhile,Im having car and computer problems so its been a little busy around here.

Bill:

I didnt really think about Indonesia but its an interesting theory,the horse hoof hilt does look very Sumatran to me.

Mark:Id love to see pics of your sword, maybe it will help narrow down the posible origins of these swords.

Justin · 11th December 2005, 11:33 PM

Sorry for the really long delay,here are a few more pics,hopefully there will be something in them to help provide a more definate id.

Ian · 13th December 2005, 12:25 AM

Justin:

I'd say this is somewhat of a hybrid of styles. The blade looks Bagobo, and the wood handle resembles some of the handles on Bagobo/T'boli work knives.

But the scabbard looks Visayan -- sort of -- and the small ferrule could also be a Visayan influence.

Probably central of northern Mindanao would be my guess.

Ian.

Justin · 13th December 2005, 01:48 PM

Thanks,Ian. Now that you mention it ,I think I know the knives you're talking about and it does have some resemblence.

The hilt/pommel seems to be what is throwing everything off I wonder if this could be a Bagobo or other PI blade thats been remounted?

11th December 2005, 11:33 PM	#3
Justin Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 182	Sorry for the really long delay,here are a few more pics,hopefully there will be something in them to help provide a more definate id. Attached Images

13th December 2005, 12:25 AM	#4
Ian Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Aussie Bush Posts: 4,453	Unusual combination Justin: I'd say this is somewhat of a hybrid of styles. The blade looks Bagobo, and the wood handle resembles some of the handles on Bagobo/T'boli work knives. But the scabbard looks Visayan -- sort of -- and the small ferrule could also be a Visayan influence. Probably central of northern Mindanao would be my guess. Ian.

26th October 2005, 03:30 PM	#1
Mark Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 987	I have an almost identical one that I have been trying to identify for years. It was my first ethnographic sword purchase, in fact, and the subject of my first-ever post on the EEWRS. I don't have pictures, but I'll take some and post.

29th October 2005, 05:51 PM	#2
Justin Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 182	Sorry I havent posted in awhile,Im having car and computer problems so its been a little busy around here. Bill: I didnt really think about Indonesia but its an interesting theory,the horse hoof hilt does look very Sumatran to me. Mark:Id love to see pics of your sword, maybe it will help narrow down the posible origins of these swords.

13th December 2005, 01:48 PM	#5
Justin Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 182	Thanks,Ian. Now that you mention it ,I think I know the knives you're talking about and it does have some resemblence. The hilt/pommel seems to be what is throwing everything off I wonder if this could be a Bagobo or other PI blade thats been remounted?