Wavy dagger from Philippines

Battara · 25th September 2013, 12:55 AM

Well this piece I feel is Filipino. This type of wavy blade indicates an Ilocano origin to me. It therefore would not surprise me at all that there would be Spanish influence in it. Not only common but expected.

Also the scabbard being horn and carved in this fashion indicate Luzon Island, where the Ilocanos live.

Obviously someone wealthy owned this due to the quality of workmanship and the silver work involved. I hope whoever got this will post here.

David · 25th September 2013, 04:53 AM

Thanks José, so it's horn then...i didn't read the auction description...

carlos · 25th September 2013, 08:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Battara

Well this piece I feel is Filipino. This type of wavy blade indicates an Ilocano origin to me. It therefore would not surprise me at all that there would be Spanish influence in it. Not only common but expected.

Also the scabbard being horn and carved in this fashion indicate Luzon Island, where the Ilocanos live.

Obviously someone wealthy owned this due to the quality of workmanship and the silver work involved. I hope whoever got this will post here.

Thank you very much !! Yor information is very valous to me.
I promise when I received dagger put more pictures.
Thanks again

Carlos

Ah Thank you very much too to the rest of people have comment, all comments are wellcome

carlos · 29th October 2013, 10:37 AM

Hello again
The last week I received dagger andf I´m very happy with this new piece, I wish enjoy pictures.
Best regards
carlos

Sajen · 29th October 2013, 12:38 PM

Hi Carlos,

a real beauty!

Please show it side by side with the other one!

Regards,

Detlef

carlos · 29th October 2013, 01:44 PM

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=10062
I have posted the comparison here because the first post was in the european forum
Thanks
Carlos

Sajen · 29th October 2013, 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carlos

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=10062
I have posted the comparison here because the first post was in the european forum
Thanks
Carlos

Thank you for the link!

David · 29th October 2013, 04:57 PM

Well the one beside it does not have the SEA flairs that show in this smaller dagger, that is the wonderful vegetal carvings on the sheath and hilt. I wouldn't have placed the larger blade in the region of the Philippines viewing it on its own. Placed together though these two daggers seem to almost undeniably be of the same origin. That begs the question, is the larger dagger from the Philippines and simply lacking any motifs from the area or is the smaller dagger actually European with some exotic SEA flair added for interest. I frankly don't know the answer and for me the origins of both these blades is still up in the air.

29th October 2013, 10:37 AM	#4
carlos Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 755	Hello again The last week I received dagger andf I´m very happy with this new piece, I wish enjoy pictures. Best regards carlos Attached Images

25th September 2013, 12:55 AM	#1
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,310	Well this piece I feel is Filipino. This type of wavy blade indicates an Ilocano origin to me. It therefore would not surprise me at all that there would be Spanish influence in it. Not only common but expected. Also the scabbard being horn and carved in this fashion indicate Luzon Island, where the Ilocanos live. Obviously someone wealthy owned this due to the quality of workmanship and the silver work involved. I hope whoever got this will post here.

25th September 2013, 04:53 AM	#2
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,229	Thanks José, so it's horn then...i didn't read the auction description...

29th October 2013, 12:38 PM	#5
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,272	Hi Carlos, a real beauty! Please show it side by side with the other one! Regards, Detlef

29th October 2013, 01:44 PM	#6
carlos Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 755	http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=10062 I have posted the comparison here because the first post was in the european forum Thanks Carlos

29th October 2013, 04:57 PM	#8
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,229	Well the one beside it does not have the SEA flairs that show in this smaller dagger, that is the wonderful vegetal carvings on the sheath and hilt. I wouldn't have placed the larger blade in the region of the Philippines viewing it on its own. Placed together though these two daggers seem to almost undeniably be of the same origin. That begs the question, is the larger dagger from the Philippines and simply lacking any motifs from the area or is the smaller dagger actually European with some exotic SEA flair added for interest. I frankly don't know the answer and for me the origins of both these blades is still up in the air.