Middle-Eastern Dagger?

kronckew · 6th September 2013, 06:38 AM

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as i am an american, i shall be completely serious however.

i am psychic (or is that psychotic?), i forget what my psychiatrist defined it as. anyway, the condition has to do with a love of sharp pointy things.

i have a vision.

it is definitely an old pre-2014 thingamabob. is a specialised form of a thingy, also sometimes called a wotsit, but more properly a watchamacallit. if it has a doohicky attached to the base of the rabbernacker with a silver moebius nut, it will be worth a lot of money (we do NOT discuss numerical amounts here in public), humongous comes to mind tho. the silver wooden scabbard is likely made from silverwood, a rare tree that excretes a sap made out of raw .999 (with birmingham proof marks) silver amalgam that hardens into decorative patterns. the decorations vary in quality and quantity depending on the age of the silverwood tree. sometimes also used on grips, it has a tendency to fall off in coin shaped patches, exposing the underlying wood. the patches are used as currency by the locals. usually to buy edible moebius nuts which are slightly addictive.

dimensions, weights, colour photos of the unsheathed item and scabbard all will help in further evaluation, closeups of markings also are helpful.

do not confuse the moebius nut with the more common knife nut.

moebius nut (left), followed by a knife nut(right):
: (tfel) tun suibeom yb dewollof (thgir) tun efink eb lliw taht israf/cibara ni ro

tonil · 7th September 2013, 12:07 PM

Apologies for the lack of photos in my first post I didn't see the specifications for photos so I was trying to add them in a resolution that is not supported.

Fingers crossed with this second attempt will be more successful...

Tim Simmons · 7th September 2013, 04:37 PM

Looks to me like an Iraqi Marsh Arab dagger. A nice older one. I do not think the scabbard metal is silver.

kahnjar1 · 7th September 2013, 08:28 PM

Not a Marsh Dagger IMHO. The top of the hilt is all wrong for that. Looks more like a Kurdish dagger with worn shoulders. The scabbard etc could well be silver. The easy way to check, is to see if the metal is magnetic. If it is not, then it is likely silver of some undetermined quality.
Stu

drac2k · 7th September 2013, 10:38 PM

Or brass with a silver wash ?

kahnjar1 · 8th September 2013, 05:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drac2k

Or brass with a silver wash ?

Yes could be.........

Henk · 8th September 2013, 11:18 AM

Yes i'm with Khanjar. Kurdish dagger. I love it.

6th September 2013, 06:38 AM	#1
kronckew Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Room 101, Glos. UK Posts: 4,249	please pardon the attempts at humour by some. it's part of the initiation for 1st time posters. taking the mick is a time honour british tradition, passed on to other nations. (p.s. - adding a location to your user profile is also useful) you might want to refer to This FAQ as i am an american, i shall be completely serious however. i am psychic (or is that psychotic?), i forget what my psychiatrist defined it as. anyway, the condition has to do with a love of sharp pointy things. i have a vision. it is definitely an old pre-2014 thingamabob. is a specialised form of a thingy, also sometimes called a wotsit, but more properly a watchamacallit. if it has a doohicky attached to the base of the rabbernacker with a silver moebius nut, it will be worth a lot of money (we do NOT discuss numerical amounts here in public), humongous comes to mind tho. the silver wooden scabbard is likely made from silverwood, a rare tree that excretes a sap made out of raw .999 (with birmingham proof marks) silver amalgam that hardens into decorative patterns. the decorations vary in quality and quantity depending on the age of the silverwood tree. sometimes also used on grips, it has a tendency to fall off in coin shaped patches, exposing the underlying wood. the patches are used as currency by the locals. usually to buy edible moebius nuts which are slightly addictive. dimensions, weights, colour photos of the unsheathed item and scabbard all will help in further evaluation, closeups of markings also are helpful. do not confuse the moebius nut with the more common knife nut. moebius nut (left), followed by a knife nut(right): : (tfel) tun suibeom yb dewollof (thgir) tun efink eb lliw taht israf/cibara ni ro Attached Images Last edited by kronckew; 6th September 2013 at 07:38 AM.

7th September 2013, 12:07 PM	#2
tonil Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 7	Apologies for the lack of photos in my first post I didn't see the specifications for photos so I was trying to add them in a resolution that is not supported. Fingers crossed with this second attempt will be more successful... Attached Images

7th September 2013, 04:37 PM	#3
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,890	Looks to me like an Iraqi Marsh Arab dagger. A nice older one. I do not think the scabbard metal is silver.

7th September 2013, 08:28 PM	#4
kahnjar1 Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: CHRISTCHURCH NEW ZEALAND Posts: 2,809	Not a Marsh Dagger IMHO. The top of the hilt is all wrong for that. Looks more like a Kurdish dagger with worn shoulders. The scabbard etc could well be silver. The easy way to check, is to see if the metal is magnetic. If it is not, then it is likely silver of some undetermined quality. Stu

7th September 2013, 10:38 PM	#5
drac2k Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 1,281	Or brass with a silver wash ?

8th September 2013, 11:18 AM	#7
Henk Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,209	Yes i'm with Khanjar. Kurdish dagger. I love it.