Breech loading 1450-1550

[Marcus den toom]

A few updates on this pistol made by Bolek (i am only the buyer, haha)

[Marcus den toom]

[Marcus den toom]

Yesterday i bought this nice artifact from the sea of cortez. It is a 16th century powder chamber for a breechloading cannon
And yes i kknow it looks like a pile of rust, but this actually pretty nice :P.

The chamber measures 8 inch (20 cm), looks like a 2,5inch caliber, but i have to verify this when it arrives at my home.

[fernando]

A very significant piece for collectors of this area, Marcus.
You should have started a new thread with it .
And by the way, if you feel unsatisfied when it arrives, let me know and we go on business

[Marcus den toom]

The Project Bolek (raspla) is doing for me is almost at a end.
Here are some pictures on his amazing work.

[Marcus den toom]

[fernando]

Moi

[Matchlock]

[QUOTE=Marcus den toom]The Project Bolek (raspla) is doing for me is almost at a end.


Hi Marcus,

As Jim and others have remarked various times, this forum should priorily be reserved to historic and authentic original pieces.

I am familiar with Bolek's works, to start out. Although his craft is technically amazing, he sometimes seems to lack the utmost depth of understanding when it comes down to the action of the guns, especially in the case of the ca. 1525 snap-tinderlock arquebus he reproduced after my images posted here: I am sorry to say that he did not fully grasp how the mechanism really works.
Apart from that, the proportions and decoration of most of his makes are not quite consistent with the original pieces; I realize that sadly he does not take exact measurements of all parts of the originals he rebuilds.

What is even worse in terms of purity and science: the gun shown here is a complete fantasy piece; he only used some influences and features of an existing ca. 1530-35 wheellock mechanism! The shape and style of decoration of the stock is mere fantasy as well, with some similarities to original pieces of ca. 1600 (!) at best, so what he did was producing a crude and cruel mixture of styles combining a span of ca. 70 years in one piece and filling in the gaps with a lot of imagination ... No such original gun did ever exist, and I do do not feel very pleased to see those confusing images in my thread that is on pure originals!

So once again:
Please do stick to originals or do copy them absolutely exactly!

Best,
Michael

[CutlassCollector]

Hi Marcus,

As Jim and others have remarked various times, this forum should priorily be reserved to historic and authentic original pieces.

What is even worse in terms of purity and science: the gun shown here is a complete fantasy piece; he only used some influences and features of an existing ca. 1530-35 wheellock mechanism! The shape and style of decoration of the stock is mere fantasy as well, with some similarities to original pieces of ca. 1600 (!) at best, so what he did was producing a crude and cruel mixture of styles combining a span of ca. 70 years in one piece and filling in the gaps with a lot of imagination ... No such original gun did ever exist, and I do do not feel very pleased to see those confusing images in my thread that is on pure originals!

So once again:
Please do stick to originals or do copy them absolutely exactly!

Best,
Michael[/QUOTE]


Hi all,

This is not my area of expertise so please correct me if I'm wrong.
But it looks to me as though this 'fantasy piece' is an 'absolute exact' copy of a wheelock being sold as an antique on a website in the UK! I won't put the direct link as it contains the price but it can be found under:
Antique Guns at gunstar.co.uk.

Regards,
CC