Two hands sword

fernando · 16th July 2013, 12:52 PM

Very nice sword, Carlos but ... are you sure this is a fighting sword and nota cerimonial example ?

I assume i may be talking nonsense

carlos · 16th July 2013, 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fernando

Very nice sword, Carlos but ... are you sure this is a fighting sword and nota cerimonial example ?

I assume i may be talking nonsense

Hello Fernando
No, I,m not sure, I don,t know nothing about sword, but I think is posible the sword was made to ceremonial purpose or decoration.
best regards

carlos

broadaxe · 16th July 2013, 05:48 PM

The best tale-tellers are the guard finials and pommel: 1. aside being nice to the eye, they simply will not stand the rigors of war and brake.
2. this pommel type is just wrong to that kind of sword.
There are some other variants to take in consideration but the photos are a little fuzzy - I'm talking about the grip, proportions, sub-guard.

carlos · 16th July 2013, 06:03 PM

Thanks for the information.
Do you think is a recent piece or maybe a victorian piece made for decoration ?
thanks again

carlos

carlos · 16th July 2013, 06:07 PM

I had seen one similar ...

Jim McDougall · 17th July 2013, 07:34 AM

I think Broadaxe has well placed observations on this 'two hander' which is indeed intended to represent swords of this type used in many cases by 'Landsknechts'. This appears to be either decorative or possibly even theatrical, as by the latter 19th c. and into 20th many such weapons were convincingly similar in appearance, though clearly not combat worthy.
In my opinion, the grip seems to be wood with studs,of course attractive but not correct, nor is the grip style.
The rust would occur even on the metal of these type swords with a reasonably antiquity in thier own right if that early, however I believe examples may have been made as decorators much more recently.

Whatever the case, it is a handsomely made example, even if not, in my opinion, an authentic period specimen of these sturdy fighting swords.

valkenburg · 18th July 2013, 04:14 PM

Check out this sword that was recently sold at auction:

http://www.lawrences.co.uk/Catalogue...3/lot0079.html

This sword is a little similar to yours and was made late 19th century (maybe early 20th century) and was most likely used only for decoration or processional use.

it sold for 870 pounds sterling.

16th July 2013, 06:07 PM	#5
carlos Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 751	I had seen one similar ... Attached Images

16th July 2013, 12:52 PM	#1
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	Very nice sword, Carlos but ... are you sure this is a fighting sword and nota cerimonial example ? I assume i may be talking nonsense

16th July 2013, 05:48 PM	#3
broadaxe Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 334	The best tale-tellers are the guard finials and pommel: 1. aside being nice to the eye, they simply will not stand the rigors of war and brake. 2. this pommel type is just wrong to that kind of sword. There are some other variants to take in consideration but the photos are a little fuzzy - I'm talking about the grip, proportions, sub-guard.

16th July 2013, 06:03 PM	#4
carlos Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 751	Thanks for the information. Do you think is a recent piece or maybe a victorian piece made for decoration ? thanks again carlos

17th July 2013, 07:34 AM	#6
Jim McDougall Arms Historian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Route 66 Posts: 10,281	I think Broadaxe has well placed observations on this 'two hander' which is indeed intended to represent swords of this type used in many cases by 'Landsknechts'. This appears to be either decorative or possibly even theatrical, as by the latter 19th c. and into 20th many such weapons were convincingly similar in appearance, though clearly not combat worthy. In my opinion, the grip seems to be wood with studs,of course attractive but not correct, nor is the grip style. The rust would occur even on the metal of these type swords with a reasonably antiquity in thier own right if that early, however I believe examples may have been made as decorators much more recently. Whatever the case, it is a handsomely made example, even if not, in my opinion, an authentic period specimen of these sturdy fighting swords.

18th July 2013, 04:14 PM	#7
valkenburg Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 16	Check out this sword that was recently sold at auction: http://www.lawrences.co.uk/Catalogue...3/lot0079.html This sword is a little similar to yours and was made late 19th century (maybe early 20th century) and was most likely used only for decoration or processional use. it sold for 870 pounds sterling.