Moro? Spear

kino · 4th April 2013, 01:42 AM

Hey Robert,
Congratulations, I just saw your title. Abuse the power

Here is a method in which a Budiak's shaft was cut for ease of transportation and put back together.

Robert · 4th April 2013, 01:51 AM

Kino, Thank you for the photo of the shaft repair. The main problem that I have with this spear is that the section of shaft that was cut off was not kept by who ever cut it down. Can you by chance identify the type of wood that was used on my example? I know that the photos that I have posted are not the best but until it arrives they are the only ones I have. The shaft on yours looks to be made of black palm wood to me, is this correct?

Best,
Robert.

P.S. Thank you for the congratulations and suggested use.

VANDOO · 4th April 2013, 05:43 AM

THE WOOD DOSEN'T LOOK LIKE PALM TO ME. THE INTERESTING THING ON YOUR SPEAR IS THE WAY THE SHAFT IS CUT AT AN ANGLE INSTEAD OF STRAIGHT ACROSS. IT LOOKS LIKE A SPEAR SHAFT CUT OFF WITH ONE STROKE OF A BLADE. UNLESS IT SHOWS SAW MARKS PERHAPS IT WOULD BE MORE INTERESTING AS IT IS, ESPECIALLY IF IT WAS SHORTENED IN BATTLE AND NOT FOR PACKING AND TRANSPORT. IF IT SHOWS SAW MARKS THEN REPLACEMENT WILL BE IN ORDER. GOOD LUCK ON THE BLADE MAY IT CLEAN UP NICELY.

Robert · 4th April 2013, 03:37 PM

Hello Vandoo, I never thought about the angle of the cut on the shaft as possibly being made by a blade in combat. That would be an interesting point for leaving the shaft as is if it does not show signs of being sawn in half when it arrives. I do not believe the shaft on my example to be palm wood like on Kino's example either. I will try to post better photos that will show the grain of the wood better after it arrives in hopes that someone will be able to identify what it is in case I do need to repair the shaft.

Best,
Robert

Sajen · 4th April 2013, 10:20 PM

Hello Robert,

great find again and I am sure you get it very cheap again!

I personally wouldn't think about to reconstruct the shaft again, you will have the problem to find the correct wood and to match the patination. What do you think about to built up a custom stand for it?
Do you will polish the silver or let it dark like this?

BTW, congratulations for your new status.

Regards,

Detlef

Robert · 4th April 2013, 10:45 PM

Thank you Detlef for your congratulations and kind words on my new addition. I have been trying to figure out what would be the best way to display the few spears that I have. I decided that just hanging them straight up and down would more than likely be the best as that way the shafts would be less likely to warp. I am (like you) hoping that the collar is silver though brass would not be bad either. If I am very lucky and it is silver I will polish it, if brass I will just clean and wax it.
Best,
Robert

Sajen · 4th April 2013, 10:54 PM

I have had in mind something like this stand I have let made for my tombak, you can see it a little bit at the shaft. When you want I can take pictures from the stand.

kino · 5th April 2013, 03:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robert

Can you by chance identify the type of wood that was used on my example? The shaft on yours looks to be made of black palm wood to me, is this correct?

I don't have the knowledge to ID the type of wood of your spear. Mine appears to be black palm wood.

Rick · 5th April 2013, 03:52 AM

Just for the record; I have no problems with warping and my spears are displayed horizontally on cafe rod brackets .

Robert · 5th April 2013, 05:28 AM

Hello Rick, I have more than enough warp things hanging around my house as it is without any new additions. Living out here in the country you can never tell when one of these spears might actually come in handy and I wouldn't want it acting like a boomerang.

I like hanging them straight up and down more for the limited space I have to work with than for any other reason.

Best,
Robert

4th April 2013, 01:42 AM	#1
kino Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,018	Congratulations Hey Robert, Congratulations, I just saw your title. Abuse the power Here is a method in which a Budiak's shaft was cut for ease of transportation and put back together. Attached Images

4th April 2013, 10:54 PM	#7
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,212	I have had in mind something like this stand I have let made for my tombak, you can see it a little bit at the shaft. When you want I can take pictures from the stand. Attached Images

4th April 2013, 01:51 AM	#2
Robert EAAF Staff Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Centerville, Kansas Posts: 2,196	Kino, Thank you for the photo of the shaft repair. The main problem that I have with this spear is that the section of shaft that was cut off was not kept by who ever cut it down. Can you by chance identify the type of wood that was used on my example? I know that the photos that I have posted are not the best but until it arrives they are the only ones I have. The shaft on yours looks to be made of black palm wood to me, is this correct? Best, Robert. P.S. Thank you for the congratulations and suggested use.

4th April 2013, 05:43 AM	#3
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	THE WOOD DOSEN'T LOOK LIKE PALM TO ME. THE INTERESTING THING ON YOUR SPEAR IS THE WAY THE SHAFT IS CUT AT AN ANGLE INSTEAD OF STRAIGHT ACROSS. IT LOOKS LIKE A SPEAR SHAFT CUT OFF WITH ONE STROKE OF A BLADE. UNLESS IT SHOWS SAW MARKS PERHAPS IT WOULD BE MORE INTERESTING AS IT IS, ESPECIALLY IF IT WAS SHORTENED IN BATTLE AND NOT FOR PACKING AND TRANSPORT. IF IT SHOWS SAW MARKS THEN REPLACEMENT WILL BE IN ORDER. GOOD LUCK ON THE BLADE MAY IT CLEAN UP NICELY.

4th April 2013, 03:37 PM	#4
Robert EAAF Staff Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Centerville, Kansas Posts: 2,196	Hello Vandoo, I never thought about the angle of the cut on the shaft as possibly being made by a blade in combat. That would be an interesting point for leaving the shaft as is if it does not show signs of being sawn in half when it arrives. I do not believe the shaft on my example to be palm wood like on Kino's example either. I will try to post better photos that will show the grain of the wood better after it arrives in hopes that someone will be able to identify what it is in case I do need to repair the shaft. Best, Robert

4th April 2013, 10:20 PM	#5
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,212	Hello Robert, great find again and I am sure you get it very cheap again! I personally wouldn't think about to reconstruct the shaft again, you will have the problem to find the correct wood and to match the patination. What do you think about to built up a custom stand for it? Do you will polish the silver or let it dark like this? BTW, congratulations for your new status. Regards, Detlef

4th April 2013, 10:45 PM	#6
Robert EAAF Staff Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Centerville, Kansas Posts: 2,196	Thank you Detlef for your congratulations and kind words on my new addition. I have been trying to figure out what would be the best way to display the few spears that I have. I decided that just hanging them straight up and down would more than likely be the best as that way the shafts would be less likely to warp. I am (like you) hoping that the collar is silver though brass would not be bad either. If I am very lucky and it is silver I will polish it, if brass I will just clean and wax it. Best, Robert

5th April 2013, 03:52 AM	#9
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,339	Just for the record; I have no problems with warping and my spears are displayed horizontally on cafe rod brackets .

5th April 2013, 05:28 AM	#10
Robert EAAF Staff Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Centerville, Kansas Posts: 2,196	Hello Rick, I have more than enough warp things hanging around my house as it is without any new additions. Living out here in the country you can never tell when one of these spears might actually come in handy and I wouldn't want it acting like a boomerang. I like hanging them straight up and down more for the limited space I have to work with than for any other reason. Best, Robert