Iraq Dagger

Aurangzeb · 9th October 2005, 09:22 PM

Hello Justin!

It does look similer to the single curve one the system of attaching the hilt with metal pegs is very similer. And the use of geometric patterns on the sheath of your single curve. Heres hoping that Artzi will notice this thread. This dagger is a mystery jambiya or varient, can't seem to get it even pinned down to a continent, so far there is Iraq, Berber, horn of africa, Yemen , Libya, and shabriya varient. Confusing

Thanks for the pictures its helping.

Mark...

Aurangzeb · 10th October 2005, 05:07 AM

Hello All!

I just thought that I whould Clairify my earlier post about it might being libyan. The use of brass and ''X'' shapes on the hilt seems african but the shape of the blade seems arab, sice Libya was a tradeing hub I thoght it might be from there because it combines influieneces from both places. Just a thought. Iraq is my first guess but Libya is my second. Any comments on my new yheory is welcome!

Mark...

Justin · 10th October 2005, 01:33 PM

I think North Africa is definately a possibility,they had a lot of 'Arab' influence especially in their weapons,but I still like my Shibriya theory

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Aurangzeb · 10th October 2005, 05:51 PM

Hello Justin !

I like the shabriya theroy to, it places it closer to Iraq.

Aurangzeb · 11th October 2005, 10:59 PM

I just noticed that the pommel looks a little like the type on a tebu dagger.

Aurangzeb · 12th October 2005, 10:48 PM

Now looking at it more closly it does appear to be a shabriya relative, perhaps this typ of shabriya comes from Iraq, is brass used on shabriya hilts?
Just a thought. This dagger is a mystery wrapped in an inigma!

Mark...

Aurangzeb · 13th October 2005, 10:47 PM

Hello All!

I was looking through some of the old Ebay links I saved into my computer and found one for a recurving shabriya with the same trianguler pommel and small metal ring like on mine, unfortunetly I forgot the link r elese I whould have posted it and with well over a hundred Ebay saves in my computer finding it wilkl be great amounts of trouble. Now that it is a shabriya that at least puts it on a continent and geograpical region, now to pin it to a country. Any guesses?

Mark...

9th October 2005, 09:22 PM	#1
Aurangzeb Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 306	Hello Justin! It does look similer to the single curve one the system of attaching the hilt with metal pegs is very similer. And the use of geometric patterns on the sheath of your single curve. Heres hoping that Artzi will notice this thread. This dagger is a mystery jambiya or varient, can't seem to get it even pinned down to a continent, so far there is Iraq, Berber, horn of africa, Yemen , Libya, and shabriya varient. Confusing Thanks for the pictures its helping. Mark... Last edited by Aurangzeb; 10th October 2005 at 05:04 AM.

13th October 2005, 10:47 PM	#7
Aurangzeb Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 306	!Brake Though! Hello All! I was looking through some of the old Ebay links I saved into my computer and found one for a recurving shabriya with the same trianguler pommel and small metal ring like on mine, unfortunetly I forgot the link r elese I whould have posted it and with well over a hundred Ebay saves in my computer finding it wilkl be great amounts of trouble. Now that it is a shabriya that at least puts it on a continent and geograpical region, now to pin it to a country. Any guesses? Mark...

10th October 2005, 05:07 AM	#2
Aurangzeb Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 306	Hello All! I just thought that I whould Clairify my earlier post about it might being libyan. The use of brass and ''X'' shapes on the hilt seems african but the shape of the blade seems arab, sice Libya was a tradeing hub I thoght it might be from there because it combines influieneces from both places. Just a thought. Iraq is my first guess but Libya is my second. Any comments on my new yheory is welcome! Mark...

10th October 2005, 01:33 PM	#3
Justin Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 180	I think North Africa is definately a possibility,they had a lot of 'Arab' influence especially in their weapons,but I still like my Shibriya theory .

10th October 2005, 05:51 PM	#4
Aurangzeb Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 306	Hello Justin ! I like the shabriya theroy to, it places it closer to Iraq.

11th October 2005, 10:59 PM	#5
Aurangzeb Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 306	I just noticed that the pommel looks a little like the type on a tebu dagger.

12th October 2005, 10:48 PM	#6
Aurangzeb Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 306	Now looking at it more closly it does appear to be a shabriya relative, perhaps this typ of shabriya comes from Iraq, is brass used on shabriya hilts? Just a thought. This dagger is a mystery wrapped in an inigma! Mark...