African curved sword for discussion/comment ?

Iain · 8th March 2013, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by napoleon

this is called a shotel,and was used by sudanese warriors,against the british.nice thing !

Ethiopians actually... Not Sudanese. Although as mentioned above the British did see action against the Ethiopian kingdom in 1868.

Wodimi · 8th March 2013, 08:30 PM

without any doubts an Ethiopian shotel. They have different formsm depending of region and tribes. Below a small collection.
Best Wolf
www.africanarms.com

Iain · 8th March 2013, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Wodimi

without any doubts an Ethiopian shotel. They have different formsm depending of region and tribes. Below a small collection.
Best Wolf
www.africanarms.com

Absolutely fantastic collection Wolf!

Thanks for sharing. Could you tell us what the tribes are and attributions in the examples you showed? I know very little about Ethiopian arms beyond being able to identify the main types.

(Just a note for others - if you haven't visited Wolf's website you really should. It showcases an amazing and diverse collection with very well done photos.)

DaveA · 8th March 2013, 11:16 PM

I never new the shotel had such diverse form. Thanks for posting! I would also welcome any further description you can provide (or I suppose I can just visit your website)

- Dave A

paolo · 9th March 2013, 11:45 AM

Here is my one, and a pic of my rino hilted guradè pommel caps with a (common) Maria Theresa thaler. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maria_Theresa_thaler
Paolo

Taffjones · 9th March 2013, 12:45 PM

Just a quick few lines to say thank you to everybody past, present and future who is helping in this thread. My brain is positively swelling with the information gained.

Taff

Wodimi · 9th March 2013, 01:44 PM

great, a fantastic example Paolo and sure from DaveA too.

Regarding the question from Iain and DaveA it's difficult to answer. The three in the middle of my group I think are from the Amhara living on the central highland plateau of Ethiopia. The one on the top and the bottom of the group picture I think more south from the ethnic group Oromo, formerly often called Galla. Sorry that I can't say more.

napoleon · 10th March 2013, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Iain

Ethiopians actually... Not Sudanese. Although as mentioned above the British did see action against the Ethiopian kingdom in 1868.

Iain · 10th March 2013, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by napoleon

Happy to share detail and info when I can.

I think the Ethiopian position and interaction with the Madhist Sudanese and the British is quite fascinating.

derek · 10th March 2013, 11:17 PM

I let go of several, but this one has managed to hang around.

8th March 2013, 08:30 PM	#2
Wodimi Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Germany Posts: 75	Shotel without any doubts an Ethiopian shotel. They have different formsm depending of region and tribes. Below a small collection. Best Wolf www.africanarms.com Attached Images

8th March 2013, 11:16 PM	#4
DaveA Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Wisconsin, USA Posts: 416	Really great collection I never new the shotel had such diverse form. Thanks for posting! I would also welcome any further description you can provide (or I suppose I can just visit your website) - Dave A

9th March 2013, 11:45 AM	#5
paolo Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 173	Here is my one, and a pic of my rino hilted guradè pommel caps with a (common) Maria Theresa thaler. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maria_Theresa_thaler Paolo Attached Images

10th March 2013, 11:17 PM	#10
derek Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 215	Shotel, Imported blade and bakelite hilt I let go of several, but this one has managed to hang around. Attached Images

9th March 2013, 12:45 PM	#6
Taffjones Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Abertridwr Posts: 50	Just a quick few lines to say thank you to everybody past, present and future who is helping in this thread. My brain is positively swelling with the information gained. Taff

9th March 2013, 01:44 PM	#7
Wodimi Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Germany Posts: 75	great, a fantastic example Paolo and sure from DaveA too. Regarding the question from Iain and DaveA it's difficult to answer. The three in the middle of my group I think are from the Amhara living on the central highland plateau of Ethiopia. The one on the top and the bottom of the group picture I think more south from the ethnic group Oromo, formerly often called Galla. Sorry that I can't say more.