Stamp Translation

mahratt · 23rd January 2013, 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lew

The stamp is the Green Mosque I think ?

I am interested in translation of the inscription.

Jim McDougall · 23rd January 2013, 09:21 PM

This is the royal Afghan stamp, and the image actually represents the Sacred Shrine at the 'Blue Mosque' at Mazir i Sharif.
This is one of the increasingly familiar hybrid swords with the Anglo-Afghan military hilt of the 1880s and the Khyber knife type blade.
These weapons are typically from the reign of Emir Abdur Rahman (1898-1901) primarily, and were produced at the Kabul State Arsenal, or Mashin Khana.
The script below the image of the Mosque is characteristically a date, most of these will be c.1898-1901.
These are fascinating items from regions with troubled and dramatic history which of course extends into the present day.

Lew · 23rd January 2013, 11:40 PM

Blue mosque

My bad

Thanks for the clarification Jim.

Lew

Jim McDougall · 23rd January 2013, 11:59 PM

No sweat! You were on the right track Lew, and you had it right that a color was significant. ...not bad for 'shootin from the hip' (as they say here in Texas)

The stuff I added I had to look up.

Dom · 24th January 2013, 12:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mahratt

I am interested in translation of the inscription.

Hi
it's not Arabic language, may be Urdu, or even Farsi (?)

through Arabic alphabet, there are 2 words, but no meaning for us

TANE CHED

and a serial of digit
300 and may be again 0

all the best

à +

Dom

Jim McDougall · 24th January 2013, 03:57 AM

Iam no linguist, but I believe the alphabet is Pashto/Dari , as these are the predominant languages in Afghanistan.

mahratt · 24th January 2013, 05:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim McDougall

Iam no linguist, but I believe the alphabet is Pashto/Dari , as these are the predominant languages in Afghanistan.

Thank you all. Language on the stamp, I think - it's a Farsi.

ariel · 25th January 2013, 12:30 PM

I would guess that " 300" is a date: first number was often omitted. If so, this will be 1882-1883. Fits.

mahratt · 25th January 2013, 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ariel

I would guess that " 300" is a date: first number was often omitted. If so, this will be 1882-1883. Fits.

Thank you

AJ1356 · 4th February 2013, 06:59 PM

It has been ages since I had enough time to come here, and I miss everyone's imaginations

. It reads Afghanistan and 1309 with is 81 years ago.

23rd January 2013, 09:21 PM	#2
Jim McDougall Arms Historian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Route 66 Posts: 10,281	This is the royal Afghan stamp, and the image actually represents the Sacred Shrine at the 'Blue Mosque' at Mazir i Sharif. This is one of the increasingly familiar hybrid swords with the Anglo-Afghan military hilt of the 1880s and the Khyber knife type blade. These weapons are typically from the reign of Emir Abdur Rahman (1898-1901) primarily, and were produced at the Kabul State Arsenal, or Mashin Khana. The script below the image of the Mosque is characteristically a date, most of these will be c.1898-1901. These are fascinating items from regions with troubled and dramatic history which of course extends into the present day.

23rd January 2013, 11:40 PM	#3
Lew (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: East Coast USA Posts: 3,191	Blue mosque My bad Thanks for the clarification Jim. Lew

23rd January 2013, 11:59 PM	#4
Jim McDougall Arms Historian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Route 66 Posts: 10,281	No sweat! You were on the right track Lew, and you had it right that a color was significant. ...not bad for 'shootin from the hip' (as they say here in Texas) The stuff I added I had to look up.

24th January 2013, 03:57 AM	#6
Jim McDougall Arms Historian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Route 66 Posts: 10,281	Iam no linguist, but I believe the alphabet is Pashto/Dari , as these are the predominant languages in Afghanistan.

25th January 2013, 12:30 PM	#8
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	I would guess that " 300" is a date: first number was often omitted. If so, this will be 1882-1883. Fits.

4th February 2013, 06:59 PM	#10
AJ1356 Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Nashville Posts: 317	It has been ages since I had enough time to come here, and I miss everyone's imaginations . It reads Afghanistan and 1309 with is 81 years ago.