crossbow of one foot, two foot and 'a tour'

fernando · 8th January 2013, 02:13 PM

This is also an interesting source:

http://lanceletrefle.free.fr/index.p...7-def-arbalete

Tendre l’arbalète :
Arming the crossbow:
1) Les deux pieds sur l’arc
The two feet on the bow
2) Etrier (un seul pied = progrès) + crochet à la ceinture (fin XIIe / deb. XIIIe s.)
Stirrup (one only foot=progress) + belt device
3a) pied-de-biche (léger et rapide)(fin XVe s.)
3b) modèle à tour ou à moufle : pesant + lent MAIS longue portée + précision (= utilisée pour défendre et attaquer places fortes)
Model à tour or crank: heavy + slow + far reach +precision (used for defence and fortification atack)
3c) crannequin : plus puissant + plus rapide

wardlaw · 8th January 2013, 04:45 PM

Not wanting to belittel the work of the reenactors (I am one myself, and a western martial artist, as well as being an acadmeic, and I appreciate the insights that they can offer) but, as far as determining the etymology of the terms under discussion, you period examples are much more convincing.

fernando · 8th January 2013, 05:50 PM

Thast was just an "en passant" in the english language, as the majority of (Web) material comes in french, from French sources; from where i have spotted quite a few more. One could then infer that this terminology was mostly preferred by "des Gauloises"; just a thought.

8th January 2013, 02:13 PM	#1
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	This is also an interesting source: http://lanceletrefle.free.fr/index.p...7-def-arbalete Tendre l’arbalète : Arming the crossbow: 1) Les deux pieds sur l’arc The two feet on the bow 2) Etrier (un seul pied = progrès) + crochet à la ceinture (fin XIIe / deb. XIIIe s.) Stirrup (one only foot=progress) + belt device 3a) pied-de-biche (léger et rapide)(fin XVe s.) 3b) modèle à tour ou à moufle : pesant + lent MAIS longue portée + précision (= utilisée pour défendre et attaquer places fortes) Model à tour or crank: heavy + slow + far reach +precision (used for defence and fortification atack) 3c) crannequin : plus puissant + plus rapide

8th January 2013, 04:45 PM	#2
wardlaw Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Somerset, UK Posts: 8	Not wanting to belittel the work of the reenactors (I am one myself, and a western martial artist, as well as being an acadmeic, and I appreciate the insights that they can offer) but, as far as determining the etymology of the terms under discussion, you period examples are much more convincing.

8th January 2013, 05:50 PM	#3
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	Thast was just an "en passant" in the english language, as the majority of (Web) material comes in french, from French sources; from where i have spotted quite a few more. One could then infer that this terminology was mostly preferred by "des Gauloises"; just a thought.