German Sword?

Martin Lubojacky · 31st December 2012, 03:01 PM

Hi Spunjer,
This is not a fake. As I wrote, basket M1904, blade M1869 style. Austrians used to make laminated blades (maybe special orders) even in the case of infantry models, not only cavalry. They also used to put old blade and newer hilt together. This could be, I would say, private weapon or a weapon made on private request by an cav. officer. Since no expert is comming, I would suggest, If you don´t mind, to send the pictures to Army museum in Prague. They are good experts in Austrian edged weapons, there.
Martin

Atlantia · 31st December 2012, 06:26 PM

I've seen a few similar pattern welded "Damascus" blades on sabres of similar age. A very nice piece.
Looks like a mongram on the spine tang-nut.

Valjhun · 31st December 2012, 07:06 PM

Very nice M1869 austro hungaric sword, officer model.

The 1869s were the first Austrian standard unified swords for all cavalry type regiments of the line; both heavy and light cavalry. The hilt is similar M1906 as Martin said, but in fact it is not, it is the M1869 type for officers, enliested model had just seven holes in the guard, while thisone is adorned. Blade is private purchase damascus pattern solingen made beauty, I would consider an etching. it should appear with a fair contrast in layers. Interesting that it is fullered only on one side. On top of the hilt is engraved the monogram of the owner. Really nice example

Private purchase blades were a common practice in KuK, I saw one M1869 withe a big and massive scabbard, storing nonthing less than a top quality turkish kilic blade with gold koftgari allover.

Norman McCormick · 31st December 2012, 07:26 PM

Hi Guys,
Here's one of mine, Austrian P1850 hilt Kilic blade. Internet search for 'DamastStahl Sword' or 'Eisenhauer Damast Stahl' will bring up plenty of Imperial German/Austrian swords with "damascus" blades.
Regards,
Norman.

Spunjer · 1st January 2013, 02:52 PM

thank you very much for the comments!
I will gladly pass this on to the current owner. Happy New Year!!!

31st December 2012, 06:26 PM	#2
Atlantia Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: The Sharp end Posts: 2,928	I've seen a few similar pattern welded "Damascus" blades on sabres of similar age. A very nice piece. Looks like a mongram on the spine tang-nut. Attached Images

31st December 2012, 07:26 PM	#4
Norman McCormick Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,632	Hi Guys, Here's one of mine, Austrian P1850 hilt Kilic blade. Internet search for 'DamastStahl Sword' or 'Eisenhauer Damast Stahl' will bring up plenty of Imperial German/Austrian swords with "damascus" blades. Regards, Norman. Attached Images Last edited by Norman McCormick; 31st December 2012 at 07:59 PM.

31st December 2012, 03:01 PM	#1
Martin Lubojacky Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Czech Republic Posts: 845	Hi Spunjer, This is not a fake. As I wrote, basket M1904, blade M1869 style. Austrians used to make laminated blades (maybe special orders) even in the case of infantry models, not only cavalry. They also used to put old blade and newer hilt together. This could be, I would say, private weapon or a weapon made on private request by an cav. officer. Since no expert is comming, I would suggest, If you don´t mind, to send the pictures to Army museum in Prague. They are good experts in Austrian edged weapons, there. Martin

31st December 2012, 07:06 PM	#3
Valjhun Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 692	Very nice M1869 austro hungaric sword, officer model. The 1869s were the first Austrian standard unified swords for all cavalry type regiments of the line; both heavy and light cavalry. The hilt is similar M1906 as Martin said, but in fact it is not, it is the M1869 type for officers, enliested model had just seven holes in the guard, while thisone is adorned. Blade is private purchase damascus pattern solingen made beauty, I would consider an etching. it should appear with a fair contrast in layers. Interesting that it is fullered only on one side. On top of the hilt is engraved the monogram of the owner. Really nice example Private purchase blades were a common practice in KuK, I saw one M1869 withe a big and massive scabbard, storing nonthing less than a top quality turkish kilic blade with gold koftgari allover.

1st January 2013, 02:52 PM	#5
Spunjer Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Witness Protection Program Posts: 1,730	thank you very much for the comments! I will gladly pass this on to the current owner. Happy New Year!!!