an archaic Kalis

Rick · 24th December 2012, 06:21 AM

Yep, thinking out loud myself, Ron .

Trying to figure out the kris's point of entry into Philippine culture; or the Kris Culture's point of entry into the Philippines .

I'm up too late, I think .

VVV · 24th December 2012, 09:16 AM

Nice that you got this beauty.
I also watched it but it was too expensive to ship it to Europe in case I had won it.
It seems like Sulu has kept the oldest form of trunk/beak.
It's interesting that this is the most common form found in Peninsular Malaysia, too.
Why it is so needs to be researched more, of course...

Michael

Sajen · 25th December 2012, 01:52 PM

Very nice kalis you have got!

I think the main question was pointed out from Rick in post # 6.

Regards,

Detlef

Spunjer · 25th December 2012, 03:25 PM

thanks Detlef. it's still an ongoing debate as to the point of entry, although rick's statement is a strong possibility, in that it started down south. michael made a good point too, about how sulu's form is similar to peninsular malaysia and indonesia.
also, been thinking about the gangya line: is it safe to say that straight gangya lines are old, but not inclusive, meaning there were some that were made that has a slant at the end? perhaps the straight line was abandoned after a certain point. if that's the case then, krises with straight gangya can be safely assumed that it's of older variety?

Battara · 25th December 2012, 05:43 PM

Let's just say that I have seen older ones with everything right except the straight ganga line.

25th December 2012, 01:52 PM	#3
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,409	Very nice kalis you have got! I think the main question was pointed out from Rick in post # 6. Regards, Detlef Last edited by Sajen; 25th December 2012 at 02:18 PM.

24th December 2012, 06:21 AM	#1
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,376	Yep, thinking out loud myself, Ron . Trying to figure out the kris's point of entry into Philippine culture; or the Kris Culture's point of entry into the Philippines . I'm up too late, I think .

24th December 2012, 09:16 AM	#2
VVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,637	Nice that you got this beauty. I also watched it but it was too expensive to ship it to Europe in case I had won it. It seems like Sulu has kept the oldest form of trunk/beak. It's interesting that this is the most common form found in Peninsular Malaysia, too. Why it is so needs to be researched more, of course... Michael

25th December 2012, 03:25 PM	#4
Spunjer Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Witness Protection Program Posts: 1,730	thanks Detlef. it's still an ongoing debate as to the point of entry, although rick's statement is a strong possibility, in that it started down south. michael made a good point too, about how sulu's form is similar to peninsular malaysia and indonesia. also, been thinking about the gangya line: is it safe to say that straight gangya lines are old, but not inclusive, meaning there were some that were made that has a slant at the end? perhaps the straight line was abandoned after a certain point. if that's the case then, krises with straight gangya can be safely assumed that it's of older variety?

25th December 2012, 05:43 PM	#5
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,342	Let's just say that I have seen older ones with everything right except the straight ganga line.