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Old 18th December 2012, 08:08 PM   #1
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Hi Gene, Carlos,
Apologies for not getting back sooner. See the not very good image, hand held compact camera under a desk lamp , but you get the gist. How old is this form?, seems to have a touch of the 'Medievals' to me, probably my imagination. Carlos, you have a good selection there, nice to see the variations.
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Old 18th December 2012, 09:08 PM   #2
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Hi Gene, Carlos,
Apologies for not getting back sooner. See the not very good image, hand held compact camera under a desk lamp , but you get the gist. How old is this form?, seems to have a touch of the 'Medievals' to me, probably my imagination. Carlos, you have a good selection there, nice to see the variations.
Regards,
Norman.
Hi Norman,

Thats very interesting, your's seems to have exactly the same tip as mine.

I'm sure Carlos knows more about these than I.

As far as I know, although the 'type' goes back at least into the 18th century, the specific form of the type B, like yours and mine are usually attributed to the second half 19thC.
I've seen lots of slightly more elaborte ones (If memory serves often the lantern hilt type) with dated blades, often the dates are in the 1870s or around there.
I would say that if you claimed both of ours were made around then, you wouldn't be far out. Mid to late second half 19thC
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Old 18th December 2012, 11:36 PM   #3
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Here is mine, what a wonderfull couple they would make together!
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Old 22nd December 2012, 12:00 PM   #4
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Hi Guys,
Many thanks for your input and info on this dagger. Gene, I can understand your fascination with these daggers, nice wee things . Valjhun, very nice example you have there even the insert is pierced and yes they would make a fine pair . Thanks again guys.
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Old 22nd December 2012, 01:28 PM   #5
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Hi Guys,
Many thanks for your input and info on this dagger. Gene, I can understand your fascination with these daggers, nice wee things . Valjhun, very nice example you have there even the insert is pierced and yes they would make a fine pair . Thanks again guys.
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Hi Norman,

Now, you know I don't like to conjecture or repeat rumours etc
No, not me, just cold facts here
But.....
In searching for these online I have come across many references to 'alleged' maritime use.
I've seen it claimed that the 'type B' were used by sailors/fishermen etc. I've seen claims of them being used to repair sails and nets. I've even seen them described as 'Dirks'.
Now, although I've never managed to find anything that actually corroborates any of that, It 'might' explain the tip being 'edgeless'?
If it was to double as a 'stitching awl' it might be better that it pushes the material apart without any 'slicing' that might lead to a rip?


Just a thought.
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Old 23rd December 2012, 02:48 PM   #6
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Hi Gene,
I see where your coming from, I'l have a good rake on the net and see what comes up. The awl part is difficult in that the eye for twine/thread should be nearer the point, to my mind it is too far up the blade to be practical and also some blades don't have the piercings. Still it's worth pursuing you never know. Thanks for your continued interest.
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Hi Gene,
I see where your coming from, I'l have a good rake on the net and see what comes up. The awl part is difficult in that the eye for twine/thread should be nearer the point, to my mind it is too far up the blade to be practical and also some blades don't have the piercings. Still it's worth pursuing you never know. Thanks for your continued interest.
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Hi Matey,
Just making holes. Definately no use for actually threading twine.
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