A very rare German Gothic War Hammer 'Dolchstreithammer' - Page 2

Swordfish · 12th May 2012, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by cornelistromp

for instance HH 64 lot 2389

It may be original, but anyway it is excavated. I usually do not collect excavated items, except made of bronze, because I hate corrosion.

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cornelistromp · 12th May 2012, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Swordfish

It may be original, but anyway it is excavated. I usually do not collect excavated items, except made of bronze, because I hate corrosion.

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I love water finds and archaeological finds, as long as there not been tampered with and the location and finder are known. "Stabilized" Corrosion is okay for me.

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kronckew · 27th November 2012, 11:44 AM

just for interest, i found out who supplied the weapons for 'Van Helsing' and bought a copy of the dolchstreithammer used in the film. it arrived yesterday.
(they also can provide one with a brass fist, steel spike & wooden haft.)

57 cm. long, 15 cm. spike point to hammer face, all steel excepting tubular wood grip over the solid steel haft, weight just under 2 kg.

you'd need to be in good shape to wield this about.

Glaive203 · 3rd December 2012, 03:42 AM

TY Swordfish for posting this. There's another illustration of these "hand hammers" in a Czech manuscript showing Jan Zizka with a date of 1424 under it.

As for the dispute between long or short bec de corbins. The martel remained in use long after the middle ages. Many nadziak husarski have these short beaks and were clearly weapons. The civilian versions of the nadziak (called Obuch) had their beaks bent down or even back.

I think the difference was between "stopping power" for the shorter beaks and "killing power" for the longer ones. A good rap to the head will stun must foes, effectively taking them out, allowing one to deliver more blows or capture them.

Dmitry that's not overkill. To kill quickly one needs to scramble the brain like that. Neither of those quarrel piles was a fatal shot, speaking as a hunter who has killed around 12,000 times and yes I have broken skulls with the back side of hatchets.

27th November 2012, 11:44 AM	#33
kronckew Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Room 101, Glos. UK Posts: 4,259	just for interest, i found out who supplied the weapons for 'Van Helsing' and bought a copy of the dolchstreithammer used in the film. it arrived yesterday. (they also can provide one with a brass fist, steel spike & wooden haft.) 57 cm. long, 15 cm. spike point to hammer face, all steel excepting tubular wood grip over the solid steel haft, weight just under 2 kg. you'd need to be in good shape to wield this about. Attached Images

3rd December 2012, 03:42 AM	#34
Glaive203 Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 12	TY Swordfish for posting this. There's another illustration of these "hand hammers" in a Czech manuscript showing Jan Zizka with a date of 1424 under it. As for the dispute between long or short bec de corbins. The martel remained in use long after the middle ages. Many nadziak husarski have these short beaks and were clearly weapons. The civilian versions of the nadziak (called Obuch) had their beaks bent down or even back. I think the difference was between "stopping power" for the shorter beaks and "killing power" for the longer ones. A good rap to the head will stun must foes, effectively taking them out, allowing one to deliver more blows or capture them. Dmitry that's not overkill. To kill quickly one needs to scramble the brain like that. Neither of those quarrel piles was a fatal shot, speaking as a hunter who has killed around 12,000 times and yes I have broken skulls with the back side of hatchets.