Add on to my sewar collection

David · 21st November 2012, 06:02 PM

Hi Detlef....i don't know a lot about these and frankly the photos are not that good. But from what i can see i would say this is a fairly late example and that the pommel piece is probably gold plated at best. I don't think the metal is real silver either. Maybe that is plated as well, but in the photos it looks more like mammas. The stone is probably glass. Hoping that when you get this in hand you find different though.

Sajen · 21st November 2012, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by David

Hi Detlef....i don't know a lot about these and frankly the photos are not that good. But from what i can see i would say this is a fairly late example and that the pommel piece is probably gold plated at best. I don't think the metal is real silver either. Maybe that is plated as well, but in the photos it looks more like mammas. The stone is probably glass. Hoping that when you get this in hand you find different though.

Hi David,

have the same thoughts about the mounts but still have the hope....
On the other hand is green horn a valuable material. Will let test the materials when I have received the dagger.

Regards,

Detlef

Battara · 21st November 2012, 09:09 PM

Without testing, the mounts do look silver to me, but I am afraid that the others may be gold plating indeed. Not surprised about the glass.

Better pictures posted will help once you get it in hand.

Sajen · 21st November 2012, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Battara

Without testing, the mounts do look silver to me, but I am afraid that the others may be gold plating indeed. Not surprised about the glass.

Better pictures posted will help once you get it in hand.

Hi Jose,

thank you for your thoughts on this one. Would be great when you are correct. Soon as I have received it I will let test it.

Regards,

Detlef

Sajen · 3rd December 2012, 09:49 PM

Have received the sewar. In the late afternoon I have been by a jeweller and let test it. The silver mounts are indeed real silver and the cap is most probable fire gilded. By the blue stone he wasn't sure, could be a sapphire but could be glass, to be sure he need to take it out from the bulb fitting. I personally think that it is stone, a small piece is broken away and this place look like glass under magnifying glass. Blade is very fine laminated but have some minor corrosion which I still need to remove. All in all it a very nice small dagger.

Here some close ups, not the best quality, it become soon dark now here in Germany.

Battara · 3rd December 2012, 11:31 PM

I now see it. You are right in that the stone is glass and the pommel does look like gilded silver.

Still a nice piece.

asomotif · 4th December 2012, 09:46 PM

Hello Detlef,

Good bargain price.
To me it looks like a "refurbished" sewar.

The blade looks old, the scabbard mouth also looks old and well carved.
But the silver mountings look recent and made with less detail and care.
Also the visible glue ? between the blade and hilt makes me say it is a restored oldy.

BTW. still at a bargain price

Best regards,
Willem

3rd December 2012, 09:49 PM	#5
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,214	Have received the sewar. In the late afternoon I have been by a jeweller and let test it. The silver mounts are indeed real silver and the cap is most probable fire gilded. By the blue stone he wasn't sure, could be a sapphire but could be glass, to be sure he need to take it out from the bulb fitting. I personally think that it is stone, a small piece is broken away and this place look like glass under magnifying glass. Blade is very fine laminated but have some minor corrosion which I still need to remove. All in all it a very nice small dagger. Here some close ups, not the best quality, it become soon dark now here in Germany. Attached Images

21st November 2012, 06:02 PM	#1
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,218	Hi Detlef....i don't know a lot about these and frankly the photos are not that good. But from what i can see i would say this is a fairly late example and that the pommel piece is probably gold plated at best. I don't think the metal is real silver either. Maybe that is plated as well, but in the photos it looks more like mammas. The stone is probably glass. Hoping that when you get this in hand you find different though.

21st November 2012, 09:09 PM	#3
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,280	Without testing, the mounts do look silver to me, but I am afraid that the others may be gold plating indeed. Not surprised about the glass. Better pictures posted will help once you get it in hand.

3rd December 2012, 11:31 PM	#6
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,280	I now see it. You are right in that the stone is glass and the pommel does look like gilded silver. Still a nice piece.

4th December 2012, 09:46 PM	#7
asomotif Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,235	Hello Detlef, Good bargain price. To me it looks like a "refurbished" sewar. The blade looks old, the scabbard mouth also looks old and well carved. But the silver mountings look recent and made with less detail and care. Also the visible glue ? between the blade and hilt makes me say it is a restored oldy. BTW. still at a bargain price Best regards, Willem