Armory of a 1600-1622 sunken ship wreck in river Elbe near Hamburg

Andi · 14th November 2012, 02:49 PM

Here are two more images of the find.

First one is a tip of a powder horn with cap.

The second photo was made by Sebastian Sonntag showing the inner side of the reconstructed ships deck in the Museum. Both cannos seems to be breech loaders. At the left piece (image also above from its muzzle with the decorative twisted iron band) the end is broken or rotten away. The piece on the right piece has an inserted chartridge. Here are also some of the ston balls found in the wreck.

M ELEY · 14th November 2012, 09:58 PM

Wow! Great pics! If it has anything to do with shipwrecks, naval weapons or pirates, it will catch my interest. I'm assuming the Elbe was a deep river to allow such a large ship to sail in it? The bent aquebus barrels are particularly interesting. The weight shifting in the hold or the ship's collapse must have done that.

Andi · 15th November 2012, 12:38 PM

Hi M ELEY!

Thanks. Taking the pictures was a bit difficult as it is rather dark in the exhibition but with a special permission for a Wikipedia-Project I was able to use a Tripod and other tools

For example the exposure time of the Stabringgeschütz has been 30 seconds.

You are right sailing was the only way to reach the harbour of Hamburg from the North Sea until the steam engine were used for powering ships. Even hauling or towing was not possible. The River Elbe has been deep enough and it was also wide enough for beating against the wind.

The arquebuse barrels were new and unused matchlock types. Either they were bent by a heavy weight or by the excessive heat of the burning wreck. Especially one barrel is smoothly bent on its end.

Attached you will find the copper engraved print of the exploding ship from 2nd July 1622, which is most probably showing the origin of most/all of this objects. I think the image gives a good idea of the incident costing 45 of the ships crews lifes.

As no records were found in any harbour or customs books of Hamburg regarding the payload (copper ingots, arquebuses etc.) for this ship, historians believe that it was going to break the Dutch blockade of Spain, smuggling strategic merchandise and weapons. That times the hanseatic City of Hamburg was bound by contract with the Nedtherlands to disable any supplies to Spain - but some hanseatic merchants made a good business out of it. It is believed that the ships canons were loaded in order to repel official patrols and pirates.

fernando · 15th November 2012, 02:13 PM

Great reconstruction and great pictures. Thanks a lot for sharing

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It looks to my humbles eyes, as also judging by the context that, the rope reinforcement of the cannon, was actualy mechanicaly twisted iron that was after applied to the muzzle.
I don't know whether to be more amazed with the bending of the aquebus barrels or with their extremely long length.
With less dimension but also noteworthy (to me

) are the iron nails. It looks like the technique of making them the was the same until just the other day. I was given a dozen of nails recuperated from old houses ceiling oak beams, probably from the XIX century, that have precisely the same aspect.

14th November 2012, 02:49 PM	#1
Andi Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Halstenbek, Germany Posts: 203	Here are two more images of the find. First one is a tip of a powder horn with cap. The second photo was made by Sebastian Sonntag showing the inner side of the reconstructed ships deck in the Museum. Both cannos seems to be breech loaders. At the left piece (image also above from its muzzle with the decorative twisted iron band) the end is broken or rotten away. The piece on the right piece has an inserted chartridge. Here are also some of the ston balls found in the wreck. Attached Images

15th November 2012, 12:38 PM	#3
Andi Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Halstenbek, Germany Posts: 203	Hi M ELEY! Thanks. Taking the pictures was a bit difficult as it is rather dark in the exhibition but with a special permission for a Wikipedia-Project I was able to use a Tripod and other tools For example the exposure time of the Stabringgeschütz has been 30 seconds. You are right sailing was the only way to reach the harbour of Hamburg from the North Sea until the steam engine were used for powering ships. Even hauling or towing was not possible. The River Elbe has been deep enough and it was also wide enough for beating against the wind. The arquebuse barrels were new and unused matchlock types. Either they were bent by a heavy weight or by the excessive heat of the burning wreck. Especially one barrel is smoothly bent on its end. Attached you will find the copper engraved print of the exploding ship from 2nd July 1622, which is most probably showing the origin of most/all of this objects. I think the image gives a good idea of the incident costing 45 of the ships crews lifes. As no records were found in any harbour or customs books of Hamburg regarding the payload (copper ingots, arquebuses etc.) for this ship, historians believe that it was going to break the Dutch blockade of Spain, smuggling strategic merchandise and weapons. That times the hanseatic City of Hamburg was bound by contract with the Nedtherlands to disable any supplies to Spain - but some hanseatic merchants made a good business out of it. It is believed that the ships canons were loaded in order to repel official patrols and pirates. Attached Images

14th November 2012, 09:58 PM	#2
M ELEY Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: NC, U.S.A. Posts: 2,184	Wow! Great pics! If it has anything to do with shipwrecks, naval weapons or pirates, it will catch my interest. I'm assuming the Elbe was a deep river to allow such a large ship to sail in it? The bent aquebus barrels are particularly interesting. The weight shifting in the hold or the ship's collapse must have done that.

15th November 2012, 02:13 PM	#4
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	Great reconstruction and great pictures. Thanks a lot for sharing . It looks to my humbles eyes, as also judging by the context that, the rope reinforcement of the cannon, was actualy mechanicaly twisted iron that was after applied to the muzzle. I don't know whether to be more amazed with the bending of the aquebus barrels or with their extremely long length. With less dimension but also noteworthy (to me ) are the iron nails. It looks like the technique of making them the was the same until just the other day. I was given a dozen of nails recuperated from old houses ceiling oak beams, probably from the XIX century, that have precisely the same aspect.