Fully Loaded Binangon

Spunjer · 4th November 2012, 06:31 PM

freebooter, the flower motif has always been integral to the ilonggo arts. besides weapons, these particular motif can be seen on textiles and architecture. if you notice on the majority of ilonggo weapons, the deity hilt has a flower cap. Nacho has postulated that these represented the Katmon flower (dillenia philippinensis). i have heard that the four petal supposed to represent the main cardinal points.
as far as what it's called we (as ilonggo) would call this a binangon, whether the blade profile is that of what sajen's have, or the one that i have. bangkaya has eloquently explained that in this thread: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=16115.
IMHO, this is what i would consider more of a tenegre:

Sajen · 4th November 2012, 06:56 PM

So at best we call both sanduko!

Spunjer · 6th November 2012, 02:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Sajen

So at best we call both sanduko!

if you were FROM Capiz or Aklan, then yes, it would be referred to as sanduko.

VVV · 6th November 2012, 06:08 AM

What a beauty, congratulations!!!

Michael

carlos · 6th November 2012, 08:07 AM

This is a really beatiful sword ¡

congratulations with this adquisition
best regards

carlos

CharlesS · 6th November 2012, 07:22 PM

Very nice...and great to know there are still treasures out there in the least likely places!

Bangkaya · 20th November 2012, 10:13 AM

Nice score on the binangon, Spunjer! I'll call it a tinegre since it has the figural anito head. Either way it's Ilonggo so I wouldn't call it a sanduko.

As for the floral motif found on swords on the island of Panay, the katmon flower figures highly as a cultural and mythical motif especially among the Suluds of the highlands. It's a very common motif embroidered among their blouses. As Spunjer noted, it is representative of the 4 cardinal points. However, the pre-Spanish belief was that the flower was an offering to Bakunawa to prevent his wrath upon the people which usually was floods, typhoons, etc. Moreover, Bakunawa was blamed for eclipses....as explained in this Amaya episode.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vD656KPnrv8

One example of the katmon flower being used as an offering is that it is placed in the first hole dug for the mainframe posts of a house. Depending on the time of the year the structure is made determines the direction in which Bakunawa is resting and holes are then dug in a certain direction and order accordingly. This offering and the correct procedure in constructing a house or building prevents Bakunawa's wrath and helps protect it from typhoons, floods, earthquakes, etc.

Regards,
Bangkaya

4th November 2012, 06:31 PM	#1
Spunjer Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Witness Protection Program Posts: 1,730	freebooter, the flower motif has always been integral to the ilonggo arts. besides weapons, these particular motif can be seen on textiles and architecture. if you notice on the majority of ilonggo weapons, the deity hilt has a flower cap. Nacho has postulated that these represented the Katmon flower (dillenia philippinensis). i have heard that the four petal supposed to represent the main cardinal points. as far as what it's called we (as ilonggo) would call this a binangon, whether the blade profile is that of what sajen's have, or the one that i have. bangkaya has eloquently explained that in this thread: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=16115. IMHO, this is what i would consider more of a tenegre: Attached Images

20th November 2012, 10:13 AM	#7
Bangkaya Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 38	Nice score on the binangon, Spunjer! I'll call it a tinegre since it has the figural anito head. Either way it's Ilonggo so I wouldn't call it a sanduko. As for the floral motif found on swords on the island of Panay, the katmon flower figures highly as a cultural and mythical motif especially among the Suluds of the highlands. It's a very common motif embroidered among their blouses. As Spunjer noted, it is representative of the 4 cardinal points. However, the pre-Spanish belief was that the flower was an offering to Bakunawa to prevent his wrath upon the people which usually was floods, typhoons, etc. Moreover, Bakunawa was blamed for eclipses....as explained in this Amaya episode. HTML Code: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vD656KPnrv8 One example of the katmon flower being used as an offering is that it is placed in the first hole dug for the mainframe posts of a house. Depending on the time of the year the structure is made determines the direction in which Bakunawa is resting and holes are then dug in a certain direction and order accordingly. This offering and the correct procedure in constructing a house or building prevents Bakunawa's wrath and helps protect it from typhoons, floods, earthquakes, etc. Regards, Bangkaya

4th November 2012, 06:56 PM	#2
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,346	So at best we call both sanduko!

6th November 2012, 06:08 AM	#4
VVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,637	What a beauty, congratulations!!! Michael

6th November 2012, 08:07 AM	#5
carlos Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 755	This is a really beatiful sword ¡ congratulations with this adquisition best regards carlos

6th November 2012, 07:22 PM	#6
CharlesS Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Greenville, NC Posts: 1,854	Very nice...and great to know there are still treasures out there in the least likely places!