Interesting converted pistol.

Tim Simmons · 13th September 2005, 06:18 PM

Hello zalmoxis. I do not really know anymore than yourself except it is not African. I just find the similarity of the mother of pearl to this Samoan food bowl most stricking. It would be very rare indeed if it had any relation to Samoa. On the bowl the triangular pieces I believe represent bats. I would agree that your pistol must come from that SE part of the world. Very interesting, maybe there are some gun people around. Tim

Tim Simmons · 13th September 2005, 06:49 PM

I think going on the designs, New Zealand is out of the question. However Islands towards SE Asia might not be too silly a thought. Tim

zalmoxis · 13th September 2005, 09:13 PM

I was thinking the Philippines but now looking at that bowl.....Where are the guns people :-)

Rick · 14th September 2005, 03:13 PM

This pistol could be a Persian copy of an English pistol ; M.O.P. was used as a decorative material in Persia .

This could also be either Afghan or Indian work .
Do we know for sure that this is an original English pistol or an Eastern copy of which there are many .

This Pistol could also be a composite piece from 20th C. India ; possibly an old piece dolled up to make it more attractive to the "Ones who travel for pleasure" have you checked for machine made parts such as screws ?

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Another hint as to its origin may be the vestigial ramrod socket which to my eye looks to be too short to adequately service the barrel . If I recall correctly many Eastern cultures carried the rammer as a separate accessory on their person rather than attached to the pistol in the European manner .

14th September 2005, 03:13 PM	#4
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,339	After A Stroll Through Tirri This pistol could be a Persian copy of an English pistol ; M.O.P. was used as a decorative material in Persia . This could also be either Afghan or Indian work . Do we know for sure that this is an original English pistol or an Eastern copy of which there are many . This Pistol could also be a composite piece from 20th C. India ; possibly an old piece dolled up to make it more attractive to the "Ones who travel for pleasure" have you checked for machine made parts such as screws ? {added} Another hint as to its origin may be the vestigial ramrod socket which to my eye looks to be too short to adequately service the barrel . If I recall correctly many Eastern cultures carried the rammer as a separate accessory on their person rather than attached to the pistol in the European manner . Last edited by Rick; 14th September 2005 at 03:41 PM.

13th September 2005, 06:18 PM	#1
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,856	Hello zalmoxis. I do not really know anymore than yourself except it is not African. I just find the similarity of the mother of pearl to this Samoan food bowl most stricking. It would be very rare indeed if it had any relation to Samoa. On the bowl the triangular pieces I believe represent bats. I would agree that your pistol must come from that SE part of the world. Very interesting, maybe there are some gun people around. Tim

13th September 2005, 06:49 PM	#2
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,856	I think going on the designs, New Zealand is out of the question. However Islands towards SE Asia might not be too silly a thought. Tim

13th September 2005, 09:13 PM	#3
zalmoxis Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: GA USA Posts: 76	I was thinking the Philippines but now looking at that bowl.....Where are the guns people :-)