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			Absolutely Jose, and though i don't know the history i would image that datus probably held some esteem even after the war. Anyone have a better grasp on this part of Philippines history?   
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	 
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			For comparison here is an ivory hilted blade that i am pretty sure dates pre-WW2 and probably back as far as the turn of the century. Note the pommel is more elongated. Fittings are silver. Though it's hard to photograph with motion, the sheath is a beautiful chatoyant wood with a real nice flashing grain. 
		
		
		
			Size: Overall in sheath, 9inches. Blade alone, 5 1/4 inches.  | 
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			BTW Robert, i can't get my wife to buy me anything blade related. Perhaps we could work out some kind of cultural exchange...   
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	    
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 Again David, this one is not fancy but beautiful and I am green with envy!  
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			Hello everyone and thank you all for your help and the great examples that have been posted. I've again tried to get some decent pictures but as you can tell a photographer I am not. However I do believe that these do show the detailing on this a little better. The picture of the guard shows the sandwich technique used in its construction which I believe is the same used on Jose's example. They also show my poor attempt "my first ever" at etching a blade. I cleaned it with ammonia, heated it slightly and then applied lime juice. At least this way I could get a very poor picture showing its construction. It could be seen quite easily before this by looking at it from an angle but I could not get a picture that it would show in at all before applying the lime juice. I would have had more showing the belt loops construction which is the same as the guards but the batteries in my camera died, I think it was trying to tell me something. 
		
		
		
			  The pictures of the scabbard do not do it justice at all, instead of better showing the giltwork, metalwork and color "which is alot deeper in person" they just seem to highlight the flaws. Anyway I hope that they are of some help. It would be nice to have a solid time frame as to when it was made and who it might have been for, but even if it is of later construction I will always hold it as one of my most prized pieces because it was a gift from my best friend, my wife. Robert Last edited by Robert Coleman; 12th August 2012 at 12:16 AM.  | 
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			Well Robert, there was never any question that this gunong is both expertly made and beautiful.   
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	 
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			Here's a similar piece, from a Paris museum, Musée du quai Branly (pics att.)...
		 
		
		
		
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			Just for the records: a gunong with fittings of similar style but of rather poor workmanship. I believe it has been made for the travellers market. The seller told me it was brought to europe by an american soldier shortly after WW2.   
		
		
		
			 
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