New Gunong

[migueldiaz]

Thanks Robert for those links (and the pic of Jose's gunongs). Didn't see those webpages before.

[Sajen]

Hello Robert,

equal from which time this gunong, it is very very nice and congrats again that you have such a wife!

I have personally my problems to believe that a gunong with ivory pommel is from the time after WW2.

Regards,

Detlef

[Battara]

Well if it is a laminated blade, then that changes things a little...........

[David]

Originally Posted by Sajen

I have personally my problems to believe that a gunong with ivory pommel is from the time after WW2.

Why is that Detlef. There are many elaborate gunongs that date post WW2. You can still find ivory being used to this day in keris hilts. Why not gunongs?

[Sajen]

Originally Posted by David

Why is that Detlef. There are many elaborate gunongs that date post WW2. You can still find ivory being used to this day in keris hilts. Why not gunongs?

I think that a keris is a complete different culture thing. Post WW2 gunongs are made in my opinion for "tourists" and not for locals (maybe I am wrong by this?? ). Elaborate workmanship wasn't expensive to this time but ivory was I think. The gunong in question seems IMHO a representation piece for a local. Or I am so wrong??

[David]

Here's an ivory gunong that i'm pretty sure is also post WW2....
...and while the one on the thread linked below only has layers of ivory as well as MOP, i'm pretty sure it is also post WW2...and you bid on it when it was in auction Detlef...
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=13095

[Battara]

Yes I agree David. This one you posted would definitely be post WWII. I base that on the style of mounts on the scabbard, the work on the blade, and especially the type of ferrule.

[Sajen]

Hi David,

yes I bid because I like it! Let us maybe not look to the time these gunongs are made, the question is: for whom are they made? Cant believe that this niece pieces are made for "tourists"!? Am I wrong??

[David]

Originally Posted by Battara

Yes I agree David. This one you posted would definitely be post WWII. I base that on the style of mounts on the scabbard, the work on the blade, and especially the type of ferrule.

I think we both agree on the relative age on this blade, but if you look at the Krieger Plate at #9 you can see similar blade work at least dates to 1926 when this plate was made.