Gunong with missing pommel

Battara · 9th August 2012, 03:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Sajen

I think to remember that Jose once write that gunong with silver fittings are from Sulu. Remember I correct?

Detlef

Sorry I am getting in so late. I don't remember saying this. I do remember giving a date for the silver one I have. If I am wrong, please show me.

Also I scratch my head at the silver bands like Indiana Jones. The filigree is the right form for Moro, but the style throws me off.

I will admit, though, the bottom band looks to be Jawi filigree script - maybe this is why it looks so weird. Also the top band is Moro.

Finally most gunongs seem to be from Mindanao, according to Federico and according to the style of okir I have observed.

Rick · 9th August 2012, 03:44 PM

I weep for the fate of the antique ivory Billiard Ball .

Can't you find another source for your ivory, Detlef ?

Here, I have found Hippo tusks for sale on gunbroker.com .

Much easier to work with !

Robert · 9th August 2012, 08:28 PM

Hello Detlef, Well it looks as though you have your work cut out for you on this one. Please keep us posted on the progress. It should be a very nice gunong once you are finished with it.

Rick, I hate to say it but one time years ago I saw a group of shooters using ivory billiard balls as targets like clay pidgins. Talk about a waste !!!

Robert

Rick · 9th August 2012, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Robert Coleman

Rick, I hate to say it but one time years ago I saw a group of shooters using ivory billiard balls as targets like clay pidgins. Talk about a waste !!!

Robert

Oh the HORROR ....

Seriously, that Hippo Ivory is prime ... and it has a natural curve .

Sajen · 10th August 2012, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Robert Coleman

Hello Detlef, Well it looks as though you have your work cut out for you on this one. Please keep us posted on the progress. It should be a very nice gunong once you are finished with it.
Robert

Thank you Robert! Of course I will post further pictures of the progress and I hope you are right!

Regards,

Detlef

Sajen · 10th August 2012, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Rick

I weep for the fate of the antique ivory Billiard Ball .

Can't you find another source for your ivory, Detlef ?

Here, I have found Hippo tusks for sale on gunbroker.com .

Much easier to work with !

Hello Rick,

have look long for old ivory for some restauration and have seen that ervery time again billiard balls listed in ebay and have win this one by not $70!
I am a little bit afraid to order a hippo tusk by gunbroker.com.

Isn't it on the cites list?

Regards,

Detlef

Rick · 10th August 2012, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Sajen

Hello Rick,

have look long for old ivory for some restauration and have seen that ervery time again billiard balls listed in ebay and have win this one by not $.70!
I am a little bit afraid to order a hippo tusk by gunbroker.com.

Isn't it on the cites list?

Regards,

Detlef

Not to my knowlege, Detlef; the seller states that these are legal teeth .

I can inquire from the Seller or pass on their site address to you if you cannot connect with gunbroker.com .

The Seller had lots of teeth, lots .

Now, you got that ivory cue ball for seventy cents !?!?

Sajen · 10th August 2012, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Rick

Not to my knowlege, Detlef; the seller states that these are legal teeth .

When it is like this I will maybe order one.

Sajen · 10th August 2012, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Rick

Now, you got that ivory cue ball for seventy cents !?!?

No, for not $.70, for $ 70, don't know who type this dot!!

Sajen · 9th September 2012, 11:24 PM

The silver is cleaned and the end cap as well the ferrule from silver is repaired and I have etched the blade. the pictures are a little bit blurry, will take better ones tomorrow by day light. The blade become very dark by etching with vinegar but show a clear lamination. What do you think, is it worth to receive an ivory pommel?

David · 10th September 2012, 01:30 PM

Personally i think you would be wasting the ivory on this piece....and while some of those bands might well be Moro they still look to me like a mismatched grouping that were not originally together on a single hilt.

Sajen · 10th August 2012, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Battara

Sorry I am getting in so late. I don't remember saying this. I do remember giving a date for the silver one I have. If I am wrong, please show me.

Hello Jose,

look here:http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ghlight=gunong, post #5

"Glad the fittings are silver. If true it may be Sulu. If plated, then it would probably be from Mindanao. If aluminum they would obviously be WWII."

9th August 2012, 03:44 PM	#2
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,365	I weep for the fate of the antique ivory Billiard Ball . Can't you find another source for your ivory, Detlef ? Here, I have found Hippo tusks for sale on gunbroker.com . Much easier to work with ! Last edited by Rick; 9th August 2012 at 04:21 PM.

9th September 2012, 11:24 PM	#10
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,350	The silver is cleaned and the end cap as well the ferrule from silver is repaired and I have etched the blade. the pictures are a little bit blurry, will take better ones tomorrow by day light. The blade become very dark by etching with vinegar but show a clear lamination. What do you think, is it worth to receive an ivory pommel? Attached Images

9th August 2012, 08:28 PM	#3
Robert EAAF Staff Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Centerville, Kansas Posts: 2,196	Hello Detlef, Well it looks as though you have your work cut out for you on this one. Please keep us posted on the progress. It should be a very nice gunong once you are finished with it. Rick, I hate to say it but one time years ago I saw a group of shooters using ivory billiard balls as targets like clay pidgins. Talk about a waste !!! Robert

10th September 2012, 01:30 PM	#11
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,239	Personally i think you would be wasting the ivory on this piece....and while some of those bands might well be Moro they still look to me like a mismatched grouping that were not originally together on a single hilt.